Re: [Discussion] grapheme cluster for str_split function

From: Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2024 10:07:09 +0000
Subject: Re: [Discussion] grapheme cluster for str_split function
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2024年3月6日(水) 18:42 Niels Dossche <dossche.niels@gmail.com>: > > On 06/03/2024 01:37, youkidearitai wrote: > > 2024年3月6日(水) 9:22 youkidearitai <youkidearitai@gmail.com>: > >> > >> Hi, Larry > >> Hi, Niels > >> > >> 2024年3月6日(水) 6:47 Niels Dossche <dossche.niels@gmail.com>: > >>> > >>> Hi Larry > >>> Hi Yuya > >>> > >>> So first of all, I meant the error handling in cases like these: > >>> https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/13580/files#diff-b8fe038d9d7539694593978bea5605f38dde4bcb6a016865130590e45e23202eR852-R860 > >>> The implementation still returns NULL here, so the signature is still incorrect. > >>> Either it should return false to match the other functions, or throw something and not return a > >>> value. > >>> > >>> On 05/03/2024 18:40, Larry Garfield wrote: > >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2024, at 7:25 AM, youkidearitai wrote: > >>>>> 2024年3月5日(火) 5:52 Niels Dossche <dossche.niels@gmail.com>: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Yuya > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This sounds useful. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I do have a question about the function signature: > >>>>>> function grapheme_str_split(string $string, int $length = 1): array {} > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This always returns an array. > >>>>>> However, looking at your PR it seems you return NULL on failure, but > >>>>>> the return type in the signature isn't nullable. > >>>>>> Also, from a quick look, it seems other functions return false instead > >>>>>> of null on failure. So perhaps the return type should be array|false. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What do you think? :) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kind regards > >>>>>> Niels > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 03/03/2024 00:21, youkidearitai wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi, Internals > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I noticed PHP does not have grapheme cluster for str_split > >>>>>>> function., > >>>>>>> Until now, you had to use the PCRE function's \X. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Therefore, I try create > >>>>>>> grapheme_str_split function. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/13580 > >>>>>>> It is possible to convert array per emoji and variation selectors > >>>>>>> using ICU. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If it's fine, I'll create an RFC. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>> Yuya > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi, Niels > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you for your comment. > >>>>> Indeed, returns false is make sense. > >>>>> > >>>>> Therefore, I changed to returns false when invalid UTF-8 strings. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards > >>>>> Yuya > >>>> > >>>> Many legacy functions return false on error, but that is widely regarded as > >>>> bad design. Please do not continue bad design. > >>> > >>> I agree that returning false on error isn't ideal for exceptional cases, > >>> that's what exceptions are for. > >>> Looking at the other grapheme functions makes me wonder though how consistent this > >>> would be, especially w.r.t. intl_get_error_*() and intl_error_name(). > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Right now, the best "standard" error handling mechanism available is > >>>> exceptions. false (or null) can very easily lead to incorrectly using that value as though it were > >>>> valid, when it's not, which will sometimes cause a fatal error and sometimes cause a security > >>>> leak. > >>>> > >>>> If the input value cannot be logically processed, that's an exception. > >>>> (Or Error, perhaps.) > >>>> > >>>> --Larry Garfield > >>> > >>> Kind regards > >>> Niels > >> > >> Thank you so much for advice. > >> Indeed, This current grapheme* functions seems inconsistent. > >> > >> Therefore, it's one thing when returns null, throws any exception. > >> Shall we do so just for the grapheme_str_split function? > >> > >> Regards > >> Yuya > >> > >> -- > >> --------------------------- > >> Yuya Hamada (tekimen) > >> - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info > >> - https://github.com/youkidearitai > >> ----------------------------- > > > > Ah, If throws exception when intl_error*, is required other an RFC? > > If we make grapheme_str_split's signature is below (include null): > > Hi Yuya > > If you want to change other grapheme functions with respect to error handling, then it requires > a separate RFC. > I think consistency between the functions is important. > > > > > ``` > > function grapheme_str_split(string $string, int $length = 1): array|null {} > > ``` > > > > For now, I change signature to array|null. > > Most others functions return false on error, so I think it should be array|false, and the > implementation should use RETURN_FALSE instead of RETURN_NULL. > > > > > Regards > > Yuya > > > > > > Kind regards > Niels Hi, Niels Thank you very much. I got it. You're right. I couldn't understand well. I use returns false when something wrong. I updated Pull Request. Please see. Regards Yuya -- --------------------------- Yuya Hamada (tekimen) - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info - https://github.com/youkidearitai -----------------------------

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