Re: [Discussion] Implicitly backed enums

On Wed, May 22, 2024, at 7:30 PM, Stephen Reay wrote: > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 23 May 2024, at 03:58, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote: >> >> On Wed, May 22, 2024, at 2:29 AM, Stephen Reay wrote: >>>>> On 22 May 2024, at 07:58, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> given that the casing for an enum should be CamelCase (per PER-CS) >>> >>> Hi Larry; >>> >>> I find myself yet again having to ask that php policies/discussions not >>> revolve around the idea that PHP-FIG is a required/expected part of PHP >>> usage. >>> >>> Until a PHP RFC specifying "proper" casing for userland enums passes, >>> can we leave the claims about what they "should be" out of discussions >>> about language/stdlib functionality? >> >> 1. The status quo in the ecosystem is relevant to language development. FIG is a part of >> that ecosystem. "Everyone in Laravel does X" or "this would break Symfony which does >> Y" are also a relevant observation to make, though in neither case is it a binding dictat, of >> course. By a similar token, the language doesn't require class-per-file, but the de facto >> standard for virtually every project that isn't WordPress is to use class-per-file for >> autoloading. It would be highly stupid of us to ignore that fact when discussing autoloader >> improvements. >> >> 2. The Enum RFC used PascalCase. The PHP maual uses PascalCase. We're already >> recommending PascalCase as the standard for enum cases. >> >> Those who aren't following that recommendation are, from what I've seen, using >> ALL_CAPS. Meaning using lower_case is NOT typical, and thus the issue I mentioned (that >> automatically using the case name as the backing string name may not be all that useful) is present >> either way. >> >> --Larry Garfield >> > > Hi Larry, > > I didn't say the community or common uses should be ignored. I just > asked you not to use the phrase "X should be Y because of <external > entity>". > > It suggests authority where none exists. I think you're reading far more "intent" or "enforcement" into my parenthetical than was intended or appropriate. --Larry Garfield