Re: State of Generics and Collections

On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 4:31 PM Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote: > > The null option is always an option, yes. The thing to understand is that today, *we already > have erased generics*, via PHPStan/Psalm. That's one reason I am, personally, against erased > generics in the language proper. They don't really offer anything we don't have already. > As for making docblock generics "official", one, as I noted I hate the current > syntax. :-) Two, that seems unwise as long as PHP still has an option to remove comments/docblocks > at compile time. Even if it's not used much anymore, the option is still there, AFAIK. It seems you answered your own point here. Erased generics do bring better syntax. > And that's before we even run into the long-standing Internals aversion to even > recognizing the existence of 3rd party tools for fear of "endorsing" anything. (With the > inexplicable exception of Docuwiki.) Are you referring to this page: https://wiki.php.net/wiki/dokuwiki? It doesn’t appear to be an endorsement and could be removed easily. Additionally, there are several third-party extensions documented on php.net, such as Swoole, Ds, Yaf, etc., which are, in a way, endorsed by their inclusion.