Re: [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.5

Apologies for the duplicate; I missed CCing Internals previously. On Mon, July 7, 2025 at 13:53 Niels Dossche wrote: >>> There are a few things I will vote no for: >>> >>> * Deprecate semicolon after case in switch statement. >>> People seem to use this and it doesn't seem harmful to have. Just because you >>> don't like it doesn't mean we should yeet it. >> >> Can you point to a project in current use where this syntax is intentionally used? I >> searched quite extensively >> (even well beyond the top 1000 Composer packages where there are zero usages) and only >> found a tiny number of >> accidental usages (e.g. where all the cases in a switch statement had a normal colon except >> one which had a semicolon typo). >> Almost all of these were quickly fixed by sending a pull request. > > See https://externals.io/message/126000, in particular > Derick's reply. I believe Derick was commenting specifically on using separate <?php ?> tags interleaved around each switch, case, break, and endswitch statement (which there are no plans to deprecate). Based on the follow-up replies from him and Tim, deprecating semicolon-terminated case statements would not affect his xdebug.org site templates. > Also I'm sure there's a lot of brownfield PHP code that we have no idea about how it > looks like. Perhaps, but even if so the migration is automatic with a single php-cs-fixer command. >> Maybe the unnecessary legacy syntax doesn't seem harmful, but I disagree.. >> Non-standard alternate syntax can cause confusion >> about a potential behavioral difference, and sometimes can even hold back future features >> (for example, deprecating the curly >> brace array access syntax in PHP 7.4 made it possible to implement property hooks in PHP >> 8.4). > > Sure, but whether it opens up anything useful in the future is highly speculative. > >> I updated the RFC to document the planned deprecation message, as well a command which >> automatically fixes any usages in a project. > > :+1: Kind regards, Theodore