Re: coerce() function

> On Dec 12, 2025, at 9:26 PM, Hans Henrik Bergan <divinity76@gmail.com> wrote: > > trivial to make in userland. Sure, almost everything is trivial to make in userland and re-use as a function. > how about making a composer coerce package first, > give it some time, check if it becomes popular, > and if it does catch on, reconsider adding it to core? I don’t think so. There’s no node-js world with left-pad function. People prefer to write plain php instead of re-using external function that’s needed to be downloaded and correctly loaded with autoload. Too much effort to re-use. Moreover, event if a function is quite popular, it doesn’t mean it should be bundled: dd / dump / u / any Laravel global functions that’s users think it’s bundled. I think it’s better to grep the world with structural search and find some cases: - condition($a) ? $a : expr() - if (condition($a)) { $a = expr() } With more or less popular use-cases: - $a == ‘desc’ ? ‘desc’ : ‘asc’ - $a == ’true’ ? ’true' : ‘false’ - $a > 10 ? 10 : ($a < 0 ? 0 : $a) - max(0, min($a, 10) - in_array($key, $values) ? $key : $default - array_key_exist($key, $values) ? $values[$key] : $default - isset($values[$key]) ? $values[$key] : $default - any similar It could be done if I prepare RFC and it will be necessary. Firstly, I’d like to discuss the idea itself. ---------- Best regards, Dmitrii Derepko. @xepozz