Re: [RFC][UNDER DISCUSSION] Oniguruma maintenance end and future of mbregex(End of mbregex)

2026年3月26日(木) 1:03 youkidearitai <youkidearitai@gmail.com>: > > 2026年3月24日(火) 20:46 Juliette Reinders Folmer > <php-internals_nospam@adviesenzo.nl>: > > > > On 23-3-2026 1:34, youkidearitai wrote: > > > > Hi, Internals > > > > I decide deprecate mbregex in 8.6 and drop in 9.0. > > So I would like to go to Under Discussion phase. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/eol-oniguruma > > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/21490 > > > > > > Thank you for writing this RFC. I don't have a strong opinion either way. I fully > > understand that maintaining the Oniguruma library, while it was abandoned by the original project is > > a huge and unenviable task. > > > > Having said that, I am very curious what Ruby will be using going forward and if PHP could > > adopt a similar solution. > > I also wonder if there are no other "blessed" forks of the Oniguruma library to > > which PHP could switch. > > I believe this should be investigated and the results of this investigation should be > > added to the RFC to (potentially) strengthen the case for the current proposal, or, depending on the > > findings, it could be that the current proposal could be adjusted based on what this investigation > > throws up. > > > > Secondly, I believe the RFC would benefit from a more detailed section about what PHP devs > > can do to mitigate the deprecation. > > For example, if the only expected text encoding is UTF-8, people can use > > preg_*() functions with the u > > modifier instead of the mb_ereg*() functions. > > > > I also think it is important to mention that the Symfony Mbstring[1] polyfill package does > > **NOT** polyfill the MB regex functionality, so cannot be used as a replacement/alternative. > > > > With this in mind, I also believe the impact analysis in the RFC should be expanded as the > > MbString extension is widely used. > > > > To support this, I've created a branch in the PHPCompatibility package [2] > > specifically for this deprecation and I have run the relevant checks over the Packagist Top 4000 (as > > of yesterday). > > > > I've posted the used ruleset and the full results as a gist. > > > > https://gist.github.com/jrfnl/bd0f66f1c185930427db4f093babf214 > > > > Summary of findings: > > > > PHP CODE SNIFFER VIOLATION SOURCE SUMMARY > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > SOURCE > > COUNT > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_splitDeprecated 30 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_regex_encodingDeprecated 25 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_eregi_replaceDeprecated 20 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_ereg_replaceDeprecated 18 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_ereg_matchDeprecated 13 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_ereg_search_initDeprecated 10 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_ereg_search_regsDeprecated 9 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_ereg_replace_callbackDeprecated 6 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_ereg_search_getregsDeprecated 5 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_eregDeprecated 4 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_ereg_search_setposDeprecated 4 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_eregiDeprecated 2 > > PHPCompatibility.FunctionUse.RemovedFunctions.mb_ereg_search_posDeprecated 1 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > A TOTAL OF 147 SNIFF VIOLATIONS WERE FOUND IN 13 SOURCES > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > So, 147 occurances in the Packagist top 4000 in total. > > > > While this is lower than I would have expected, it should be remembered that most > > distributed packages will default to/require UTF-8 encoding and that code handling non-UTF8 > > encodings - and therefore needing the Mb regex functionality - is mostly found in proprietary > > packages. > > > > The PIE extension would help those packages. > > > > Another potential alternative for those packages would be to convert all their data and > > code to a UTF-8 base, which will be a humongous project for most (and that deserves a mention in the > > RFC). > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Smile, > > Juliette > > > > > > 1: https://symfony.com/packages/polyfill-mbstring > > 2: > > https://github.com/PHPCompatibility/PHPCompatibility/commit/47ba8b691f82d13dcfe496549c1110d250e18a8c�6��c� > > b�@�\ߋ� > > 3: > > https://gist.github.com/jrfnl/bd0f66f1c185930427db4f093babf214 > > Hi, Juliette > > Thank you very much for your gist. > I saw your gist, seems like depends mbregex(Oniguruma). > > > Having said that, I am very curious what Ruby will be using going forward and if PHP could > > adopt a similar solution. > > I also wonder if there are no other "blessed" forks of the Oniguruma library to > > which PHP could switch. > > I believe this should be investigated and the results of this investigation should be > > added to the RFC to (potentially) strengthen the case for the current proposal, or, depending on the > > findings, it could be that the current proposal could be adjusted based on what this investigation > > throws up. > > Indeed, There is a Onigmo in > Ruby(https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/master/regexec.c) that fork > from Oniguruma. > There are Onigmo and Oniguruma differences. > > I wrote your feedback to RFC. > And I quoted your gist result. Please let me know if there is any problem.. > Thank you again. > > Regards > Yuya > > -- > --------------------------- > Yuya Hamada (tekimen) > - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info > - https://github.com/youkidearitai > ----------------------------- Hi, Internals I would like to "Voting" phase at next week if there is no any concern. Next week, re-remind email then go to "Voting" phase at next friday(2026-04-10). If any comment, Feel free to comment. Regards Yuya -- --------------------------- Yuya Hamada (tekimen) - https://tekitoh-memdhoi.info - https://github.com/youkidearitai -----------------------------