Re: AI generated mails

در تاریخ سه‌شنبه ۲۵ اوت ۲۰۲۶، ۰۰:۵۳ سپهر محمودی <sepehrphpr@gmail.com> نوشت: > > > در تاریخ دوشنبه ۲۴ اوت ۲۰۲۶، ۲۳:۳۴ Weilin Du > <weilin-du@qq.com> نوشت: > >> Hi Christian, sepehr, Yuya and Osama, >> >> We have a AI policy for Github comments already [1]. If you want >> to expand it to e-mails and PRs, feel free to open a policy RFC. >> >> Personally, I am okay with AIGC. Fundamentally AI is a tool, and >> clearly a useful one. In this thread, I think you treat "use AI or not" >> in comments as a "Proof of work" in this era. In most cases, people >> using AI to generate text seems to put less effort in it, that's true, >> but I don't agree with some of the "progressive" AI policy you've >> mentioned in other projects. As a maintainer of the intl extension, >> I'd focus more on the code quality itself rather than whether it's >> AI-generated code or comments. I frankly don't agree with the >> proposal to ban AI in the php internals. >> >> That being said, I feel disgust to communicate with soul-less >> contributors who entirely use AI without any critical thinking. >> However, it depends. If one can use AI to generate good code >> and idea, I am glad to work with these people. I don't see the >> benefit to completely ban AIGC in the project. >> >> Also to sepehr: Thank you for your interest in the intl extension! >> To get you started: in the extension, some constant can be enums. >> And, I would be in favor of appropriate namespaces to avoid conflicts >> in the extension's class that make things clearer. Maybe that is a good >> RFC idea in 8.7 that needs someone to work on. Also, it is still in >> progress to fill in the little blanks between php APIs and ICU APIs. It >> might to a good way to start if you want to add new functions/methods. >> Not to mention the error state stuff in the extension is, frankly, bad, in >> my opinion, and could be optimized since it has caused a lot of very >> stupid bugs and make my life harder :( There are still bugs and PRs on >> Github you can help with, the list goes on and on and on... >> >> There are tons of things you can do :) This goes to everyone who want to >> contribute to the extension. >> >> Cheers, >> Weilin Du, weilindu@php.net >> >> [1]: >> >> https://github.com/php/php-src/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#llm-usage-in-github-comments >> >> > > --------------- > > > Hi Weilin, > > Thank you so much for the warm welcome and for sharing your thoughts! > > I completely agree with your perspective on AI. It's a fantastic tool that > boosts productivity, but critical thinking, deeply understanding the logic, > and ensuring code quality must always come first. I always make sure to > fully understand and test every line of code I contribute. > > Your suggestions for ext/intl in PHP 8.7—like transitioning constants to > Enums, introducing proper Namespaces, and improving the error state > handling—are absolutely great ideas. > > Right now, I am entirely focused on finalizing my RFC for > array_str_contains (and related functions) and getting its PR > ready. > However, I am very interested in exploring those intl improvements for PHP > 8.7 right after I wrap this up. > > Thanks again for the support and for pointing me in the right direction! > > Best regards, > Sepehr Mahmoudi > ---------- Hi everyone, Regarding the topic of AI: In my opinion, AI tends to write text in a very literary and formal manner, which makes it useful for that specific purpose. However, if one wants to use it for coding—which I personally do not do—it requires giving it exact, step-by-step instructions to get the desired result. While some developers might choose to use AI for their code, my personal approach is different. I prefer to work entirely independently and rely on my own skills for both coding and communications. Hopefully, after finalizing my current RFC (array_str_contains), I will begin my work on the intl extension. Best regards, Sepehr >