Re: [RFC] End PEAR Project Endorsement
| From: | Derick Rethans | Date: | Mon, 07 Sep 2026 09:03:46 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: [RFC] End PEAR Project Endorsement | ||
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2026, Rowan Tommins [IMSoP] wrote:
> On 27 August 2026 04:36:50 BST, Nick Sdot <php@nicksdot.dev> wrote:
>
> >We win nothing by further stalling a decision; I believe we should
> >stop the endorsement for PEAR.
>
> I think this is the key: a lot of the comments on previous discussions
> were about "giving a chance" for one or other individual or group to
> revive the website. Multiple attempted contacts were made, and many
> months have gone by, with nobody reporting a positive result.
>
> If that's not long enough, how long is? If the site stays alive in its
> current state for 10 years, it will continue to be exploited by
> spammers and probably worse. That's not in anyone's interest.
>
> -
>
> Coincidentally, Andrew Nesbitt, who writes tooling and analysis
> comparing different packaging systems, wrote a recent post about
> approaches to sunsetting:
>
> <https://nesbitt.io/2026/06/23/sunsetting-a-package-manager.html>
>
> One of the points he discusses is that freezing a channel rather than
> taking it offline means that security vulnerabilities are also frozen
> in place, with no way to supersede them for anyone still using the old
> tooling.
>
> I think readonly is probably the right approach in this case at least
> in the short term, but actively sunsetting later is maybe something to
> consider.
I agree. I think we should commit to leaving it on for a specified
amount only (a year), and then also turn off the archival variant of the
site. We can move a tarball onto our museum.php.net property for
archeologists.
cheers,
Derick
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