Re: OT: php5 - target for migration or new apps (was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: References Problem Patch)

Hi George, I see two things: a) Many companies large and small have migrated or are in the process of migrating to PHP 5 mainly for the improved XML and Web Services support. As such migration requires a whole QA cycle, this is often done in sync with an already planned product release. Most of them don't even know about PHP 5.1 as the majority of companies aren't tapped into internals@, and that I consider the mainstream of PHP users. The perception (and IMO the reality) is that PHP 5 is production ready. For companies where lack of good XML and Web Services support is not a pain point, the migration takes more time. b) Most new development I'm seeing is based on PHP 5. I see a good mixture of Web applications (Intranet/Extranet/Internet) but I think I've seen faster Intranet/Extranet migrations, often due to the increased use of Web Services. Andi At 08:07 PM 5/30/2005 -0400, George Schlossnagle wrote:

On May 30, 2005, at 7:15 PM, Andi Gutmans wrote:

Not sure who you're talking to but I know a large amount of companies (some of them huge) who have based their development on PHP 5.

Can you share (or guess at) the skew of companies migrating existing apps from PHP4 to PHP5 versus the number of companies developing new apps on PHP5? What I'm seeing at OmniTI is that customers with (big or XML-intensive) existing PHP4 code bases are reluctant to migrate to PHP5 (actually to my frustration, so it's not just my bias entering the fray), while customers developing new apps are keen to do so on 5.

But anyway, it's really irrelevant to this discussion.

Yes, but interesting. Maybe it'll live in a new off-topic thread. :) George