Re: [PATCH] Namespace Patch, Alpha 3

On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 23:59 +0200, Marcus Boerger wrote: > > I don't like this idea; it restricts the developer to this Java-like > > class / directory layout. It also restricts him to name his files after > > the scheme you defined (which is <classname>.php) - many use other > > schemes. Shouldn't PHP let you be free in this kind of decision? I think > > yes, especially, as this could also be implemented with the __autoload > > function in user-space. > > You already have the ability to overload __autoload or provide several > userspace __autoload functions that would be called one after another > until the first succeeds. What else do you want? Besides the fact that > i am still convinced that we should find a way to pass the full namespaced > name to __autoload instead of just the classname. If you ask me not doing > so is simply an error. Yes, I was saying to use __autoload instead of the proposed import magic. > > Here's another one: the script > > > <?php > > $foo= 'Foo:Bar'; > > import $foo; > ?>> > > > gives me > > > alex@boost:~/cvs/php-namespaces# sapi/cli/php ~/tests/classes/dynamic_import.php > > > Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_VARIABLE, expecting > > T_NAMESPACE_NAME or T_NAMESPACE in > > /mnt/home/alex/tests/classes/dynamic_import.php on line 3 > > > (IIRC Stanislav Malyshev already mentioned this in the YANP-thread > > already.) > > I don't see any reason to allow this. PHP is already far to dynamic (which > already prevents some speed improvements to the engine). Namespaces are a > means for working with several frameworks/libraries at a time and for > spreading/controlling responsibilities. In all those cases you definitively > won't need the above and its presents would circumvent what we'd achieve > here. import $this is just something I'd expect PHP to be able to deal with - but I could live without it. Btw, if you're saying "Namespaces are for spreading/controlling responsibilities", do you mean something like the package access level for methods and member variables Java has? Is anyone thinking of introducing this? -Alex