Re: Re: Moving to PHP5.1 and Apache 2.2 next year, need help

From: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 00:40:10 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: Moving to PHP5.1 and Apache 2.2 next year, need help
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On 8/9/05, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote: > PHP by default compiles as a non-pic shared library now which is just as > fast as a static build inside Apache since it is the pic stuff that > slows down a DSO. So there is really no need for static builds anymore, > unless you happen to be on a fringe OS that doesn't support non-pic > shared libs. This is good to know. I guess it is time to rewrite my build-a-new-webserver script. It has seen changes over the years but not a comprehensive reevaluation. > > Still, I looked at lighttpd and it looks promising. The one thing that > > started all of this was Apache 2.1's event MPM that used a single > > thread to handle all open Keep-Alives looked very efficient. > > I think you are probably better off solving this in a lightweight > frontend process. Chances are you are going to need lingerd if you go > keepalive, so perhaps the real solution is to make lingerd handle not > just the shutdown, but also the startup of the request. You know, I remember considering lingerd a long time ago... and I feel like an idiot for not using all these years! If it is not in my script it doesn't cross my mind. So I have that on today's todo list. (This seems like something Apache2 should do automatically in its threaded MPMs, not that we would be using mod_php here or anything, but maybe I am confused by your statement above, so I have tried not to email back until I could find more information, but I could not. In the lingerd website it says "lingerd can only do an effective job if HTTP Keep-Alives are turned off" which is confusing when compared to your statement above. Unless you are combining it with the lightweight process (I assume a proxy server). Then it makes sense. Except for the part about having lingerd hande the startup of the request, at which point I'm clueless again.

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