Re: Re: Expose php: on or off

From: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:48:57 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: Expose php: on or off
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    Leave it alone. I vote we just drop this discussion. :)
    We have lot of more important things to talk about than
    about something like this..
    --Jani
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Wez Furlong wrote:
Turning off expose_php is just security by obscurity; a determined hacker can still probe for problems even if that setting is turned off. My vote is to leave it as-is; leave it to the administrator to decide if they want to turn it off. --Wez. On 11/10/05, Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net> wrote:
Hello Andi, agreed, also we are doing very much work on security. Thus new and regular updated systems shouldn#t have a problem with exposing this. And we cannot do anything for unmaintained systems anyway. Therefore i think we or any user should not be ashamed or fear having php being exposed. best regards marcus Thursday, November 10, 2005, 11:47:22 PM, you wrote:
I personally think it can hurt the PHP project to have expose_php turned off by default. A lot of PHP's push has been thanks to the Netcraft numbers.
Andi
At 10:56 AM 11/10/2005, Wolfgang Drews wrote:
I don't think it would reduce the number of attacks turning the version information off. But it would be more cumbersome to help people with php issues as the php version is not directly available.
Right, that was my point too.
yes, but in the end it is more a problem of user-perception. "hej, if security-experts say it is more secure, then ofcourse i will turn it off - after all i don't care for netcraft-stats" (and don't know about it either). finally, if people turn it off because of security-reasons, one should consider a compromise between "security" and "statistics" ... or not? best regards -Wolfgang
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