RE: [PHP-DEV] messing with branch prediction
| From: | Zeev Suraski | Date: | Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:17:13 +0000 |
| Subject: | RE: [PHP-DEV] messing with branch prediction | ||
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I still don't see how it can hurt, and even if it doesn't do anything performance wise, it adds clarity to the code.
Zeev
At 20:34 19/06/2006, Andi Gutmans wrote:
I think it's a nice idea but I doubt it's very useful at this point. It doesn't seem to significantly affect performance, which is inline with some tests that we have done in the past, where it's really the hardware management of branch prediction and cache size which affect this. I doubt that make such code changes will affect that in a significant way. We are playing around with some memory management issues, and are relying on some hardware branch predicition there (i.e. hoping that the hardware will play nice with if() statements that always evaluate the same). It seems that the hardware is playing pretty nice with us. -----Original Message----- From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:zeev@zend.com] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:46 AM To: Nuno Lopes Cc: PHPdev Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] messing with branch prediction Definitely looks nice. I actually like how it makes the code more readable hinting which branches are rare. Zeev At 16:49 18/06/2006, Nuno Lopes wrote:executor.Hello, Yesterday I was playing with branch prediction in the Zend VMsomeone elseAlthough I didn't have any noticeable performance improvement within the bench.php script, I've put the patch on-line, becauset_005f_00might want to mess with it too :) (but with care..) patch: http://mega.ist.utl.pt/~ncpl/zend_branch_prediction.txt gcc docs: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Other-Builtins.html#index-g_increase. On CPUs5fbuiltin_005fexpect-2440 the zend.h part of the patch is based on the similar macros (with the same name, too) found in the Linux kernel. I made & tested the patch in a Centrino laptop with gcc 3.4, so it might be the cause of getting no relevant performance-- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.phpwith longer pipelines (like Pentium 4/NetBurst architecture), the performance increase might be noticeable. Happy hacking :) Nuno -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php