RE: [PHP-DEV] Native Singleton Implementation

Very well. I just thought it would be a nice OOP feature to save time on some people's behalf. -----Original Message----- From: Marcus Boerger [mailto:helly@php.net] Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2007 8:41 AM To: scott.mcnaught@synergy8.com Cc: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Native Singleton Implementation Hello scott, reason we are agsinst is that you can easily do i already in PHP. Actually you can even do it in a manner everybody understands without having to make the language more complex. Or in other words sometimes it does not hurt doing a few keystrokes more. Instead it helps read- and maintain-ability. best regards marcus Monday, March 12, 2007, 9:53:52 AM, you wrote: > Perhaps I should not call it singleton then. Because I'm not trying to put > a flexible design pattern with large degrees of freedom as such into core > php. All I am trying to achieve is a nice way for people to implement > classes that only ever need one instance. > Can I ask why you are very much against this if you are? It seems that most > people need to do this at some point. I am starting to feel there's a lot > of negativity towards this because it's a different approach. > Good point about the uniqueness across one / all php instances. I was only > thinking of one unique instance for just the current php instance / request. > Definitely something to consider. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sebastian Bergmann [mailto:sb@sebastian-bergmann.de] > Sent: Sunday, 11 March 2007 8:26 PM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Native Singleton Implementation > scott.mcnaught@synergy8.com wrote: >> Yes! Moving the singleton functionality into core php. Its an excellent >> OOP feature. > Besides the obvious implementation considerations (should the Singleton > object be unique in a single PHP instance or across "all" PHP instances, > etc.), I am very much against putting reference implementations of > design patterns into a programming language. If you want this, you have > not understood the intention of design patterns (or the difference (in > degrees of freedom) when compared to algorithms). > -- > Sebastian Bergmann > http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ > GnuPG Key: 0xB85B5D69 / 27A7 2B14 09E4 98CD 6277 0E5B 6867 C514 B85B 5D69 > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Best regards, Marcus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php