Re: PHP 6 Preview

On 19.05.2007 06:23, Wez Furlong wrote:

On 5/18/07, Antony Dovgal <antony@zend.com> wrote:

I can see 47 open bug reports assigned to you (this is bugs.php.net only, there are also 25+ bug reports in PECL). Most of the reports are COM, PDO or streams related. Do you still maintain these extensions? If no, please say so, we'll start looking for new maintainers.

With respect Tony, I think you're being somewhat dickish here. I'd be totally fine with you saying that if I had actually assigned those bugs to myself, but I didn't.

Most of the reports are assigned by other people, that's how it works.

It's pretty clear that I've been too busy to work on those bugs, but that's fine; we have other people (also maintainers) that are perfectly capable of working on them too. It's this kind of sniping that PHP can really do without.

Don't get me wrong, Wez. You know that we got along very good for a long time and I'd still like to continue working with you. But the current situation with PDO is really annoying - the extension which was supposed to be one of the main PHP5 features (and the idea was brilliant, that's true) is in terrible state - no support, tens of open bugs (still open for months) and you don't seem to care. Same for COM and openssl (thanks to Pierre, it's changed recently). Yeah, I know very well that you're busy. So are all of us. And that's understandable. But if you are busy and not going to maintain PDO, let's do the right thing - step up and say: "I won't do it anymore, does anybody want to take it over?" It's not about you personally, the very same situation we have with several other extensions: ext/session, ext/wddx, ext/ftp, their authors are either gone or just don't care. Who supports ext/xmlrpc nowadays? Those weird SAPIs for toy web-servers? Nobody. They are still "maintained", but the quotes change the meaning to "forgotten". I just want to clarify this situation - either the maintainers are temporarily busy and will continue working on their extensions or they have to admit that they won't do it anymore, we'll mark the extensions as orphaned and start looking for other maintainers.

One of the points that Andrei was trying to make was that if you really don't have time for something, you should say so, so that other people that do have the time can step forward and help out.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You said it yourself. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal