Re: RE: Optional scalar type hinting

On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 13:37 -0800, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > suitable to enterprise level development. it's merely a case of > > not being able to please everyone all of the time (or of not having your cake > > PHP is pretty good with pleasing people (including enterprise > developers) as it is now, and will get better in 5.3 and 6 - without any > strict typing. So this argument is not exactly in your favor - burden of > proof is on new feature proposals, and bigger the feature - bigger the > burden. Very true. But we have to make sure to give new features a completely honest and objective view, strictly on their technical merits. > > I also seem to remember (forgive me if Im mistaken) that you we're a > > proponent for the increases in strictness surrounding various things related > > to OO. that feels rather hypocritical at some level. > > Like what? You don't expect me to have same opinion to all proposals, do > you? > > > you implied in another post that php should have some kind of structured direction. > > how about a language spec and a formal functionality proprosal/acceptance mechanism? > > Yes, I'd be happy to see it happening. No, I don't have time to create > it. If you do - you know where to find a text editor and docbook build > system ;) > > > (preferably one that didn't allow major changes like the inclusion of namespaces into > > a minor release) > > 5.3 is a "major" release from a lot of aspects, don't let the numbering > fool you. It is generally accepted that waiting for PHP 6 to make any > change would be too long. Unfortunately, we couldn't find a number > between 5 and 6 for a version number, so we'd have to settle on 5.3. Definitely, and namespaces have caused me no problems and I've been developing in PHP 5.3 (heavily using namespaces) for a couple of months. I supported and still do support the namespace implementation 100%.