Re: solving the namespace conflict issues between function/staticmethod class constant/ns constant

Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > On 22.09.2008, at 16:37, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > >>> Returning to the original debate, if you really believe this conflict is >>> not an issue, then why was the first user note published last December a >>> note about this conflict? >>> >>> >>> http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.namespaces.php#80035 >> >> I could add nothing. The problem exists, but proposed solution make >> language even worse. Having A::B->foo() and ->foo() or ::foo() and >> A::B->C::foo() is much more inconsistent from my point of view. >> It would be better to change static class separator from :: to ->, but >> it's a BC break > > > Again, not speaking as an RM, I personally feel we really do have to > solve this ambiguity problem. I do not agree that this only affects > "namespace abusers". > > That being said we have to stay realistic. What Greg proposes is > realistic imho. Its essentially reusing an existing OO syntax. The same > is what we have today with the double colon. While I agree that it would > not be my natural choice, it seems it solves our real problem of the > frequently mentioned ambiguity problem. So from that perspetive its a > step forward from the current syntax. Yes. Changing :: into any other separator solves the functions/static methods and constants ambiguity, but it also breaks intuitive syntax. Thanks. Dmitry. > I know we are getting dangerously close (or are we already back in it?) > to the namespace separator discussion. I remember back then a lot of > people were saying lets get the implementation done first and then worry > about the syntax. I guess we are more or less at this point now. > > regards, > Lukas Kahwe Smith > mls@pooteeweet.org > > >