Re: [PATCH] New PDO methods for PostgreSQL driver

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Oskar Eisemuth <patchnow@gmail.com> wrote: > Pierre Joye wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <info@tyrael.hu> wrote: >> >> >>> Agree, but currently I don't see any point in waiting, if we don't do >>> anything else beside waiting. >>> >>> >> >> There are discussions about that on the PDO list in the past. However, >> it is because we failed to start discussions that we should give up >> and continue to add bad designed features to PDO, with all respects to >> the author of the patch. >> >> Now let begin an open discussion to define what we actually need for >> PHP to continue to rock the web >> > Well, I collected various points at > http://wiki.php.net/internals/pdo/brainstorming (a wiki page > started by > Lukas) The big problem I see, there is no one to take responsible for PDO. In my > opinion stuff that should work since ages should be fixed and then new > features can be added in a sane and most backward compatible way. So the > solution I use currently is to wrap PDO and try to fix the most annoying > binding bugs in userland, but for higher level stuff that won't work. > > Imho, using a connection pointer for going back to the native libs is the > wrong approach, so adding somehow the missing feature is the only right way > for PDO. > > I think the discussion was already started, but as usually the pdo list > doesn't have enough people to get things done and will be silent for the > next "decade" as soon as the first ideas show up. I don't see a benefit in > collecting the ideas at the wiki either as no one really cares anyway... > > ---- > Oskar Eisemuth > > Yeah, this pretty much sums up my opinion. Tyrael ps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikeshedding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overengineering