Re: Strict typing

Johannes Schlüter wrote:

Good that this discussion happens in a secret place on a list no "community" members can see. Oh wait. It doesn't. Oh and wait we let users participate! And "we know best" - well part of this is that for doing the discussion in a sane way you need some minimum knowledge and some experience. I talked to PHP users on different conferences, even about type hints at different conferences and such and if you ask them "Do you want type hints?" most of them will answer "yes, yes, yes!" until you explain the consequences, like I did a bit on my blog[1] (again very secret discussion ignoring all users!). Then suddenly they agree that type hints are bad. But that's not their opinion. That's manipulation. Asking the question the way you want while providing the material to support your point. (It is hard to ask this in an "neutral" way) For _real_ argumentation you need to really think through it. And here on the list are people who try to do this. Many people participating in this discussion discussed other problems, too and then found out what the bad consequences are, and learned from these mistakes. Others are willing to invest time to think through ideas. Few just flame/try to push their opinion. But still this is an open list. (sometimes unfortunately) johannes [1] http://schlueters.de/blog/archives/139-Scalar-type-hints-in-PHP-trunk.html

Fair enough. I just feel like if I don't follow this newsgroup then I won't know what's going on with PHP. For others like myself, I don't know about other places to watch, such as your blog or the IRC. Votes that I have casted here have been counted, and I thank you for that. But it just seems hard to follow at times.