Re: On how a little knowledge is completely useless.

On 17 September 2010 14:17, Rafael Dohms <listas@rafaeldohms.com.br> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Christian Kaps > <christian.kaps@mohiva.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:02:10 +0100, Richard Quadling >> <rquadling@gmail.com> wrote: >>> One thing that did come to mind is if we ignore all the issues and >>> complexities of actually implementing annotations, are annotations >>> useful to a significant number of userland developers. On the surface, >>> (and this is probably where I'm going wrong), it would seem to only >>> really be of use to framework developers, and whilst there are at >>> least 2.5 frameworks per developer, the vast majority of userland >>> developers are not framework developers. >> >> This isn't right. At a first glance, yes it looks that only framework >> developers can have a benefit from annotations in the core. But the >> annotations extending the API of a framework so that all developers >> which using this frameworks have a great benefit of them. >> >> Lets take as dependency injection as example. If the framework >> implements this concept than the user of the framework make the usage of >> this. Or the bean validation framework. This is only for the framework >> users. >> > > I agree with Christian here, something that is "for framework > developers" benefits all of the userland users that use that > framework. > So we are not looking at the minority of framework developers but at > the majority of framework users. > > So i think the point of "is there use for annotations" is mute, yes > there is and we don;t see more examples cause we never had it. > How often did anyone suggest creating a state machine in the ZF > Controller before we had goto available? once it became available we > started finding uses for it. > > So i'm pretty sure one Annotations exist, more and more people will > get familiar with it and find new ways to use it in their mindset. Thanks for that. So, where can I read something about annotations aimed at what must be painfully obvious someone without all the skills. How would I use annotations? What problems that I don't know I have do they solve for me? Richard. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY