Re: Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd)

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:33 AM >>To: Andi Gutmans >>Cc: Derick Rethans; PHP Developers Mailing List >>Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) >> >>On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> wrote: >> >>> Hence my suggestion to bundle MongoDB extension and possibly work on >>additional extensions. Some of my suggestions probably rightfully didn't get >>much interest such as Thrift. >> >>See my comment in your other thread and below. >> >>> Maybe we should consider making a list of extensions we think could be >>beneficial and the new mentorship program can actually help deliver some of >>them? >> >>I do not thnk it is a good thing to begin a discussion about this exact topic and >>then totally ignore it. >> > > I think it got lost in the very long and varying discussions. Will dig up and take a look. I > had a couple of hectic weeks. It was not a long discussion and you began this thread :) http://news.php.net/php.internals/52898 >>I also think that it is somehow wrong to post something asking to do not propose >>new things when we finally have more people involved in proposals and >>discussions. Maybe that's just me me but I do think that the main problem we >>have (besides the ones we identified and try to fix right now) is the complete >>lack of open discussions about possible new features, in this list with new or >>existing contributors. > > I did not say we should not propose or have discussions (I am in favor of adding [] for arrays > for example). But I am saying the bias should be not to include new language functionality unless it > has very broad appeal & serious upside impact. The bias should be against feature creep. Right, that's why we introduce a voting RFC in addition to the release RFC, with some "large majority" concept. However I still think that such posts are inappropriate, timely and generally, while being of freedom of speak ;-) Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org