Re: html_errors default settings

On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote: > On 6/23/11 12:47 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: > > I'd like to revert this change *and* change when the docrefs are > > shown, so that in 5.4 and trunk: > > - html_errors is on by default again. > > - the docref links are only shown when docref_root is not empty > > > > A patch is attached. Comments? > > Thinking more about this: if we're in production, that means > display_errors is off. So where exactly we expect to have these HTML > errors and how they are useful? They are not useful in production, but as distributions use the "php.ini-production", even PHP developer that uses a distribution package now doesn't use the "php.ini-development" settings. Hence, no more HTML errors and people bitch. Not seeing errors because display_errors=0 is much more obvious. > I have no idea why specific settings of xdebug depend on html_errors > and why xdebug can't have its own configuration setting to fix it if > needed - but this has nothing to do with PHP defaults IMO. I'd like to > hear and explanation how production setting of html_errors as 1 is > useful. They "depend" by choice. Xdebug simply enhances how things show up, and does not want to mess with the settings that people have already made, as that's even a larger WTF point. The main points are that: 1. the default changed between 5.2 and 5.3, and I'd like to restore it 2. html_errors shouldn't mean that the docref stuff is turned on automatically. The docref stuff is the annoying part, not the HTML formatting. HTML formatting in production is *not* a problem (you should have display_errors=0 anyway). Main goal: make it easier for developers. cheers, Derick