PHP Outreach Project (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Make primitive type names reserved words (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] 5.4 features for vote (long)))

On 11 July 2011 09:26, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jan Schneider <jan@horde.org> wrote: >> Try that for String and it reveals a different picture. Horde 3 used that >> too FWIW. >> >> Jan. > > Even the php5 versions of Horde? That's rather bad given the so strong > and loud warnings we gave about using common names w/o namespace, by > the time of the date problem. Do we need a sort of out-reach program here? Something that will be more active in announcing the various potential BC changes that are going to happen in PHP? Rather then just having the projects/leaders/developers pull from our various sources, we (as in the PHP group) actively subscribe to THEIR lists/FB/twitter/etc. If this is feasible and supported, I think that any BC we introduce needs to have support to give details on workarounds. In some cases, this could be as simple as renaming a class/function/method/etc. In other cases, more work dependent upon the actual project. I would recommend only pushing of BC info. New features/enhancements/etc. that are non-bc (from our perspective and research), should not be pushed. This means that if I (as a third party developer) get the call from PHP saying "We will be breaking classes called string!" I really really need to do something about it. It may be a pull list is fine/enough, but I guess we already have these and yet modern projects are still not preparing themselves. -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend : PHPDoc @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY : bit.ly/lFnVea