Re: Scalar-type-hinting - which way is the best to go?

From: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 07:10:49 +0000
Subject: Re: Scalar-type-hinting - which way is the best to go?
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Hello Simon, > in_array("123abc", array(3, 7, 123, 28)) === true This is a pointless example, because the first argument of in_array is of type "mixed" and not "int". So, this may cause many headaches, but it is irrelevant to the discussion about scalar type hints. Lazare INEPOLOGLOU Ingénieur Logiciel 2012/3/19 Simon Schick <simonsimcity@googlemail.com> > 2012/3/18 Adam Jon Richardson <adamjonr@gmail.com>: > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Simon Schick > > <simonsimcity@googlemail.com>wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi, All > >> > >> Just to add an example why I want a more strictly type-check here as > >> we have in the current type-juggling: > >> > >> > > http://www.brandonsavage.net/an-xss-vulerability-in-the-making/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=an-xss-vulerability-in-the-making > > > > > > I see the example given as one of poor validation, not a reason for more > > strict type checking in a dynamic, weakly typed language. > > > > One could: > > > > - use a regex > > - setting the third argument (strict comparison) of in_array() to true > -OR- > > looping through the array and checking equivalence with === > > - ensure the type juggled value (the integer form) was returned and used > > rather than using the original string > > > > I actually like the conversation on scalar type hinting, and I've even > > offered some ideas for integrating a form of it, too. However, poor input > > validation is not one of the reasons that I would use to justify its > > inclusion. The goal of proper input validation should be to account for > > page requests that include invalid data and provide appropriate feedback > > within the natural flow of the application. Erring out when calling a > more > > strongly typed function at runtime does not provide this type of > > application flow. > > > > Adam > > Hi, Adam > > I totally agree that type-hinting should not cover what the programmer > should do for validating the given input ... > But I just wanted to point out that this is something the author (and > I) would never expect to happen ... > > in_array("123abc", array(3, 7, 123, 28)) === true > > But that's another thing :) > I just wanted to point out that I don't want to have the string > "123abc" accepted as an integer :) > > Anyways ... This thread should be a discussion about the whole > concept, not the details. > Sorry for getting off-context here. > > Bye > Simon > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >

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