Re: 6.0 And Moving Forward

Whilst I feel some sympathy for you, I must ask if it is really the PHP project to blame if your hosts use old PHP versions? On Jul 20, 2012 12:50 PM, "Lester Caine" <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote: > Daniel Macedo wrote: > >> >One little change in PHP5.3.10 or so wiped out a whole block of mine, and >>> >the fix involved a re-writing all the <?= code across many pages. Simply >>> >because the ISP would not switch back on short tag. >>> >> Did you really go through all code manually to change the short tags? >> You should be smarter than that: >> >> https://github.com/danorton/**php_replace_short_tags/<https://github.com/danorton/php_replace_short_tags/> >> > > If I had easy access to every FTP server and local copies of the code > bases in each, but we still have not rationalised what we inherited > structure wise, and the update to PHP5.3 had not even been advised for > those hosting packages! I think it was a mistake and unfortunate that the > version they picked had the short_tag regression. > > But I want to get these sites BACK to '<?=' format as well since '<?php > echo' is simply wrong for the style of site and framework that they use. > I'd been tidying them up to be consistent before they blew up. > > One of the reasons major versions are introduced is BC breaks, those >> don't come around frequently nor are introduced lightly, and you still >> go through the E_DEPRECATED > .ini setting > disabled > optional >> extension, for a safe cycle. >> >> I like to think we, as smart developers, would like to see complexity >> reduced, even if we need to input a few man-hours into adapting the >> old surviving masterpieces. >> > > I've spent many DAYS on the 'strict' updates to other peoples masterpieces > So that argument is my main objection to many of these 'complexity > reductions' as the changes I am making add nothing to the functionality of > these sites. > > The MAIN problem here is that ISP's do not update supplied versions of PHP > even with security fixes, simply because that cause them more problems. > Many of the hosted sites I still need to move over are still on PHP5.2.? > and dropping them onto a PHP5.4 machine even with all the ini settings > correct simply does not work because they need bringing up to date to > PHP5.3 first. I'm dragging my feet moving some 100 sites off 5.2 simply > because I don't know what problems it's going to cause :( > > The stepping stone approach being pushed for these sorts of changes only > works if everybody is following on the same stone. I bet 75% of sites are > still on 5.2 and that moving them up to 5.4 simply would not work cleanly? > At least every one needs testing before moving them ... and that takes time > ... > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - > http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=**contact<http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact> > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - > http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.**uk<http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk> > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >