RE: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2 : Typehints / Accessor Syntax

I would have to agree with Stas, the type hints that are presently implemented are failed code waiting to be found. Good luck if you're not monitoring your error logs. I can agree with the concept of wanting to avoid having to do all kinds of simple verification of input parameters but thankfully type hinting is optional. I think if it had been done differently, at least when possible, such that errors occurring during compile time and thus could be -linted it would have been much more useful, re: the concept of fail early. -Clint > -----Original Message----- > From: Stas Malyshev [mailto:smalyshev@sugarcrm.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:58 AM > To: Amaury Bouchard > Cc: Levi Morrison; Clint Priest; internals@lists.php.net; Nikita Popov (nikita.ppv@gmail.com) > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-DEV [RFC] Property Accessors v1.2 : Typehints / Accessor Syntax > > Hi! > > > Not necessarily strongly typed. (sorry to land on this topic > > afterwards) As I see PHP, it's a language that can be used as an > > informal scripting language, but also as a rock-solid modern tool. > > I have no idea what "rock-solid modern tool" means, though PHP is trivially a modern > tool by being a tool and existing right now ;) > > > Type hinting in parameters is a really good thing, and it doesn't > > transformed PHP in a strongly typed language. > > It however gave a permission to people to try sneak in strong-typedness through various > backdoors arguing exactly that: "but we > have strong typing for parameters, why not for other things?" I think it is not the right > approach. Also, the fact is that other dynamic > languages do not have strong typing. It may be they just aren't smart enough to recognize > everybody needs it - or there may be a > reason why it doesn't happen. I think there is a reason, which again was outlined some > 9000 times here on the list. > > > Doing the same for object properties (always optional) could be very useful. > > Not really, since PHP is not a compiled language and as such does not have static type > controls. Now not only every foo($bar) can > blow up but also every $foo->bar = $baz. Not very useful. > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ > (408)454-6900 ext. 227