Re: Voting periods

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 29.01.2013 17:55, schrieb Larry Garfield: > On 1/29/13 5:08 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: >> hi Jan, >> >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jan Ehrhardt >> <phpdev@ehrhardt.nl> wrote: >>> Hi Pierre, >>> >>> Pierre Joye in php.internals (Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:55:27 >>> +0100): >>>> This is one of the reason why the 'new' release process RFC >>>> does not allow BC breaks. But we can't be 100% sure that we >>>> do not introduce one without you, all projects and users, >>>> doing intensive testing using your apps, modules, plugins, >>>> etc. And before the final releases, not after. >>>> >>>> Question: Did you test D7/8 and their respective plugins with >>>> php 5.5? >>> >>> No. Reality: many Drupal users are beginning to move from >>> Drupal 6 to Drupal 7 at the moment. So are we. The code freeze >>> for Drupal 8 will be no sooner than July this year. And we have >>> enough issues with D7 under PHP 5.4 to worry about BC breaks >>> beyond PHP 5.4. >> >> What do you need to get D7 tested under 5.5? I mean once you have >> a CI in place, it is not hard to setup one instance to test 5.5. >> >> Waiting the final release of 5.5 won't be of any help, not for >> Drupal, not for us. > > Clear, detailed instructions aimed at someone who has *never used a > C compiler before*[1] for how to build, install, and run a 5.5 > alpha, for Mac and for common Linuxes[2], that do not require doing > screwy things with running multiple web servers on a single OS. In > fact, the ideal would be periodically released VirtualBox images > with the latest alpha or beta tagged that we can just boot up and > run.[3] > > The first point is, I think, the biggest blocker. "Try out the > latest PHP and see what breaks" is currently a task that roughly > 0.1% of PHP developers have the technical ability to even do. > Bring that up to 5-10% and we may see a *much* better feedback > loop.[4] > If that is the issue, I could probably set up an obs project for that, which would autobuild a distribution package out of the git code at select points in time. It could even go as far as autobuilding a kvm/xen/virtualbox image. I do that kind of stuff for userland code (Horde) but I never fealt it was something others could use. - -- Ralf Lang Linux Consultant / Developer Tel.: +49-170-6381563 Mail: lang@b1-systems.de B1 Systems GmbH Osterfeldstra￟e 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEIAPEACgkQCs1dsHJ/X7AGPACeLgsDMsHmZszlYF9jyR483CVh mxAAmwUgix4jbTHEzVMMNECiJqtDso6f =eX3a -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----