Re: Ability to lower PHP memory usage

At 20:57 08/01/2004, George Schlossnagle wrote:

On Jan 8, 2004, at 1:39 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote:

Personally, I'm not convinced this is that case, even if the people we're dealing with run thousands of Apache processes per server (which they do).

Unless they're running thousands of apache server instances (not just children), shouldn't the memory sit in shared pages and thus be completely insignificant? And if they are running 1000s of instances per server, perhaps they have an architectural problem that this band-aid won't fix? :)

Obviously we're talking about httpd children and not 1,000 roots... Anyway, depending on the module, if there's any sort of RINIT initialization, the CoW trick doesn't work very well and it consumes some per-process memory. There's also the function table which is not shared and will grow by a few dozen kilobytes thanks to the extra functions, which is not shared across children. Note, my position at this point is that there's probably very little gain in this as well, unless we can find a large number of modules with a significant amount of functions, some of them maybe doing their own per-request initialization, thus conserving a significant amount of per-process memory. The list that Andi posted does not convince me that this is the case. Zeev