Re: little request :)

From: Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 10:54:16 +0000
Subject: Re: little request :)
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Hi Sanford, On 7 February 2014 07:41, Sanford Whiteman <swhitemanlistens-software@cypressintegrated.com> wrote: >> If your site is vulnerable to a 'timed attack' then something else >> is wrong? > > It's a valid point: a site that locks out accounts after just a few > failures is not vulnerable to an attack that requires a considerable > volume of trials against the same account. > > However, even though account lockout policies are common on internal > networks (where intruders may be physically tracked) not everyone with > a public website can be so punitive. You are basically publishing a > DoS recipe if your site works this way. In addition, accounts that are > whitelisted from being locked out (if any) are usually the most > sensitive ones. Yep, that’s the problem. If you need a high volume of requests, delays will counter you. Timing Attacks don’t necessarily need that high a volume since it processes one byte at a time instead of all possible combinations of bytes for a given string. So you can spread the attack over a much higher time period to compensate and still execute it in a reasonable time frame. Of course, it would be nice if the victim cooperated ;). Paddy -- Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.survivethedeepend.com Zend Framework Community Review Team Zend Framework PHP-FIG Representative

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