Re: Thoughts on C version supported for PHP-Next
| From: | Xinchen Hui | Date: | Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:49:57 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on C version supported for PHP-Next | ||
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> 在 2014年7月28日,22:20,Andrea Faulds <ajf@ajf.me> 写道:
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> On 28 Jul 2014, at 15:00, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:
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>>> Well, we don’t need to allow all of C99. We can simply allow using
>>> features that are widely supported and actually useful. For example,
>>> declarations between statements,
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>> I think that makes code a lot less readable, so I would not be in favour
>> allowing this in our coding guidelines.
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> Really? I’ve found that declaring everything in advance makes for hard-to-read code. To take
> an example from code I’ve written (admittedly not C code - GML if anyone’s curious - but it
> might as well be), the first line of a function looked like this:
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> var list, hashList, text, i, pluginname, pluginhash, realhash, url, handle, filesize,
> progress, tempfile, tempdir, failed, lastContact, isCached, env;
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> Even broken onto multiple lines, declaring everything at once isn’t nice. For large functions
> (and some functions have to be large necessarily), declaring everything at the start just means a
> long list of variables and I would argue impairs code readability.
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> You should declare variables when and where you need them. If everything is done at the top,
> you have to scroll up to check the type of a variable. It also means that now-unused variables are
> less obvious as the declarations are far away from the usage, so you probably won’t spot that
> it’s useless unless you look at your compiler warnings.
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> Actually, a similar issue popped up in the code where that example was from. The language it
> was written in had some unfortunate properties, one of which was that variables not explicitly
> declared would instead be treated as properties of the current object. Because all the variables
> were declared at the start of the function, it was easy to miss the fact that some variables being
> used had not actually been declared. Of course this specific issue doesn’t exist in C, but it is
> an example of why having to declare all your variables at the start of a function isn’t really a
> good thing.
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> If nothing else, I think we should use C99’s ability to declare variables between statements.
> It makes it more likely mistakes will be spotted, eases reading code, and as far as I am aware, is
> widely supported.
I really hate this.
Thanks
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