Re: [PHP7] Remove the function keyword from class methods?

On Oct 4, 2014 11:24 AM, "Thomas Gossmann" <mail@gossimaniac.net> wrote: > > Thanks Johannes, I slipped over it but would have never found the discussion to it. > > I run over it and the summary is: Many people like it and those that don't have brought arguments, that are present here again. The discussion is almost 4 years old by now, and people are complaining over things getting implemented in php back in time, which are now implemented and turned out to be ok - I expect the same to happen with this idea. > Main contra argument is, people are not able to grep for 'function *' anymore, which I guess is a minority of people and they can write themselves a shell-script which makes it possible to search for functions again, so not a big deal. However, the more important statement behind this is, who is the more important crowd of people that are targeted with changes like these? Primary or secondary consumers? > ... but see my other mail, which conatains answers. > > Though, I have one question left regarding the old rfc? Why it has been gone inactive and basically slept since then? > > Thanks > Thomas Gossmann > > Am 04.10.14 um 19:44 schrieb Johannes Schlüter: > >> On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 18:21 +0200, Thomas Gossmann wrote: >>> >>> I guess this was a discussion earlier, though I wasn't able to find >>> anything about it. Would love to hear, what pdt-internals (re-)think >>> about that topic. >> >> >> Go to wiki.php.net/rfc look at the titles containing "function" and you >> will see "Make T_FUNCTION in method declarations optional" which was >> added by me. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/optional-t-function >> >> Since proposing I was convinced this wasn't good. Please bring new >> arguments. Discussion was in this thread >> http://news.php.net/php.internals/50628 (another viewer >> might be better >> to find the ~64 followups) >> >> johannes >> > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > Summary thus far: Pro: Eliminating the function keyword is good because coding === sculpting; "perfection" occurs when there's nothing left to remove. Con: It's completely unnecessary and would make it prohibitively difficult to consistently locate subroutine declarations in a codebase. I believe the cons vastly outweigh the pros in this case. The function keyword is a very good example of PHP's KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) philosophy. But if you're serious about this, draft an RFC and we'll vote on it. If 2/3 support your idea, it'll pass. --Kris