Re: RFC: PHP 7.0 timeline

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Xinchen Hui <laruence@php.net> wrote: > Hey: > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote: >> All, >> >> >> >> We’ve had some discussions about it during the version name & phpng RFC >> processes, and now that 5.6.0 is behind us – I think it’s time to get a >> more concrete game plan for PHP 7.0. >> >> >> >> I drafted an RFC that proposes a one year timeline for PHP 7.0. I believe >> it strikes a good balance between early delivery to stay competitive, and >> having enough time to shape a major version. Given that we’ve already made >> some very substantial progress towards 7.0 (with phpng, AST, uniform >> variable syntax, etc.) – I think that timeline is very realistic, and >> perhaps we can even beat it. Restating the obvious, new features that >> don’t have compatibility implications can always be delivered in minor >> versions, i.e. 7.1, 7.2, etc. >> >> >> >> The RFC is at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7timeline - >> comments welcome! > > I think this process is a little long. > > we should freeze new features by the end of this year. then we could > release 7 asap > > and regarding of the qa process, we can use 7.0.x to do that. > > thanks Mmmm I don't think it is a good idea to rush the release. At the starting point (so, something like one year ago), we had many ideas to add to the new major PHP and had a compute of at least two years development. Also, we havent talked about a possible PHP 5.7, that could ease the transition regading BC breaks brought by PHP7, issuing deprecation notices for examples. Also, what about breaks in ABI ? Have we ported every extension ? Have we written some doc to extension writters ? Tools for them to ease migration ? Last, some big parts - ideas we had - have not been taken in consideration, nor debatted. Some are listed here : https://wiki.php.net/ideas/php6/engine Quickly put : Asynchronous IO and network code rewriting - PHP/Zend Extension code rewrite - Introduction of threads into the VM, refactor TSRM - SPL rewrite and merging .... and many other ideas. Julien.Pauli