Re: [RFC] Remove the date.timezone warning

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Matteo Beccati <php@beccati.com> wrote: > > > On 27/01/2015 01:34, Bob Weinand wrote: > > > >> Hey, > >> > >> I'd like to request removal of the date.timezone warning. > >> > >> Here is the RFC: > >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/date.timezone_warning_removal > >> < > >> > >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/date.timezone_warning_removal> > >> > > > > The warning is certainly annoying, but making it default to UTC or a wrong > > timezone because the right one can't be guessed is a major WTF. > > > > Ideally the initial setup of php.ini could be handled by the distro > > package system, if it's not already? > > Isn't UTC the only "right" default timezone there is for a server? This is not a server setting, this is a PHP application level setting. And there, UTC is not the "right" default choice. > Everything else being there to simplify implementation of websites > which anticipate a geographically narrow target audience? > > Anyway, I absolutely don't get why out of all the hundreds of ini > settings that we have, some of them vastly more important than setting > a timezone (like display_errors or error_reporting - newbies trip over > these much more often), the only one we actually require you to > specify is date.timezone. That seems very disproportional. But easily solved by distributions. Debian could easily stick the following in a post-install hook to fix it: echo -n 'date.timezone=' > /etc/php/config.d/date.ini cat /etc/timezone >> /etc/php/config.d/date.ini cheers, Derick