Re: [RFC][VOTE][RESULT] Removal of dead or not yet PHP7 ported SAPIs and extensions

Hi Pierre, On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:51 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Andrey Andreev <narf@devilix.net> > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Jordi Boggiano <j.boggiano@seld.be> > >> wrote: > >> > On 09/02/2015 22:29, Anatol Belski wrote: > >> >> > >> >> ext/imap > >> >> ext/mcrypt > >> >> ext/pdo_dblib > >> > > >> > > >> > Sorry if this was suggested already but if those are not maintained > much > >> and > >> > should not be used further ideally, shouldn't we add E_DEPRECATED to > >> them at > >> > least? > >> > > >> > I understand that they are kept to avoid making the upgrade path > harsher, > >> > but it's also not great to let they linger on forever with no notice > to > >> > users that they are doing something wrong. > >> > > >> > >> I don't think it has been suggested already, but I agree - should be > >> deprecated. > > > > > > > > Vote is vote. Why don't we deprecate them by documentation with obvious > > warning? > > We cannot deprecate them immediately, anyway. > > > > Is there any objection for deprecation by document? > > So we do not want to kill them because they are still used (but dead). > But we may come with some wrapper to replace almost all the features > provided by the dead libs? At least for mcrypt, good luck to anyone > willing to do that for imap ;). But now we should deprecate them but > deprecation has lost its meaning as we vote on the actual removal, > which may be rejected. > > So basically, unless we clearly have no chance to have a replacement, > I am totally against adding yet some deprecation notices, not if > adding a deprecation is actually followed by a removal, read: Vote for > deprecation means removal in next. But if it is not the case and we > keep deprecated features forever, then we may just kill the > deprecation flag instead. Isn't better to deprecate them in document than nothing? That's what I thought for now. I'm looking forward new crypt extension, BTW! When it is available, we may have vote again. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net