Re: Headsup: PHP7 feature freeze

Hi Anatol, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anatol Belski" Sent: Monday, July 07, 2015

Hi Matt,

-----Original Message----- From: Matt Wilmas [mailto:php_lists@realplain.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 4:10 AM To: Internals; Kalle Sommer Nielsen Cc: Anatoliy Belsky; Dmitry Stogov; Nikita Popov; Ferenc Kovacs; Xinchen

Hui

Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Headsup: PHP7 feature freeze Hello RMs, all! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kalle Sommer Nielsen" Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015

Howdy This is a quick heads up that we plan to have the next release of 7.0.0 be Beta 1, this marks a feature freeze and from there on, we will switch focus on to stabilization, regressions and other bug fixes. Beta 1 is schedule to be tagged and packaged on July 7th and released on July 9th which is a small 2 weeks from now to get any remaining changes of such in. If you are in doubt about whether or not your change would be considered a 'feature' or have any other questions, then feel free to mail us RMs or reply here.

I intended to reply to this shortly after, and I guess there isn't much

reason to

now. :-) I started messing with the parameter parsing stuff, which I

thought

would take a couple days max, but I got deep into it. Message coming sometime soon about that... Anyway, I was wanting to do some enhancements to the Postgres extension, and I was hopeful they could be included for 7 until I saw this message

and

thought, "Uh-oh." Until the ZPP thing, I hoped I'd have the basics of the "features" whipped up by the end of last week (not that I thought anything

could

be commited immediately ;-)). Is this the shortest Alpha period ever? (Serious question. :-)) If I had

really

jumped on the work (I had to get up to speed on some new-to-me internals),

I

could have been maybe a month sooner. But when I saw the wiki timetable,

I

thought there'd been until August or so after 3-4 Alphas... *shrug* So if there are 9 releases before final, there's going to be 4-5

Betas and

4-5 RCs? I thought there'd be more "even" distribution. Well, the Postgres stuff comes from the fact that I just "discovered" it

(truly, in-

depth) about 10 weeks ago. (Life changing!) Of course shortly after

something

led me to start looking into PHP's code, after already being disappointed.

As I

analyzed things more, I figured I could actually fulfill my own wishlist.

:-D

The main "feature" is very straight-forward (almost search-and-replace!). The other feature group I'm not sure what thoughts will be about usability/implementation, but it shouldn't be that big either, and totally

isolated

from existing functionality. BTW, there are *several* other issues with the extension's code, that I

started

noticing right away. I literally lost track, didn't note them; but

hopefully can

clean them all up. Of course these can all be done, and also applied to

5.6,

AFAIK. If we can have these changes sometime, it'd be nice if it was before

7.1...

Of course, for my personal use, I really don't care since I can use them

right

away. But I think the PHP-Postgres community needs them and would be

glad!

Thanks for the suggestion. Do you already have some code to show?

No, not yet. But I'll still go ahead and send my proposed changes when I get to it fairly soon. Like I said, I want this for my own use at least, so the sooner it's done, the better. :-) Back in May I thought I'd first try to fix the different issues I noticed, but at this point, it's probably better to focus on the features part, and then do the other stuff after. I don't think there's much overlap...

Regards Anatol

Thanks, Matt