Re: async/await - is future reserved words in PHP 7.x?

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins@gmail.com> wrote: > On 29 September 2015 16:22:30 BST, Thomas Hruska <thruska@cubiclesoft.com> wrote: >>On 9/29/2015 6:52 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: >>> We shouldn't reserve words on a whim ... >>> >>> async/await doesn't solve any problems for multithreaded programming, >>at >>> all ... it solves problems for asynchronous programming, a different >>> concept ... let's not confuse the two ... >> >>Actually, it does. Asynchronous and multithreaded programming are >>attempts at solving the exact same problem: Simultaneously handling >>multiple data streams in whatever form that takes whether that be >>network, hard drive, random device XYZ, RAM, or even CPU. The former >>says, "Let's wait until we can read or write and continue when we have >>data." The latter says, "Let's read and write but let the OS handle >>context switching to give the appearance of simultaneously handling >>multiple data streams." > > That description may have held a few years ago, when processes and threads were nearly always > time-slices on a single CPU core, but surely on a modern system there can be real simultaneity, > because even the cheapest laptop has multiple CPU cores. An asynchronous approach is useful for > cases of "do something else while I wait for this background task to complete", but seems > less so for "do both of these things actively, using whatever resource is available". > > It may be that the first class of problem is more common, but that doesn't make the two > equivalent. Remember that discussion we had some years ago ? ;-) Async IOs etc... some parts can still be found on the wiki (https://wiki.php.net/ideas/php6/engine). I hope we'll be able to collaborate about this subject for a PHP-Next, like PHP 8. Julien.P