Re: PHP 7.1 - Argon2

From: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:12:40 +0000
Subject: Re: PHP 7.1 - Argon2
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> On 11 Jan 2016, at 07:57, Scott Arciszewski <scott@paragonie.com> wrote: > > Does adding Argon2 as a possible choice for password_hash() + > password_verify() need an RFC? Or can I just submit a pull request? The original RFC (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/password_hash) contained the following text: > I'd propose the following policy for updating the default hashing algorithm in future > releases of PHP. > > * Any new algorithm must be in core for at least 1 full release of PHP prior to becoming > default. So if scrypt is added in 5.5.5, it wouldn't be eligible for default until 5.7 (since > 5.6 would be the full release). But if jcrypt (making it up) was added in 5.6.0, it would also be > eligible for default at 5.7.0. > * The default should only change on a full release (5.6.0, 6.0.0, etc) and not on a revision > release. The only exception to this is in an emergency when a critical security flaw is found in the > current default. > * For a normal (non-emergency) change in default, an RFC shall be issued for the update of the > default algorithm, following normal RFC rules. So technically I don’t think it would be necessary to have an RFC to add another algorithm, though I think it might be nice as this is certainly a place where things shouldn’t be changed willy nilly. > It won't be changing the default in 7.1, and IIRC this sort of change > was already agreed upon as part of the original password_hash() RFC. I’m not really qualified to discuss the merits of the algorithm but a couple of questions: * Is there already a crypt scheme for Argon2? Or are there any efforts to define one? It would good if PHP wouldn’t be an island. * Back in July, when it won the PHC, it wasn’t deemed production ready as they wanted to make a few tweaks. Is that completed? * Are you proposing to use Argon2d or Argon2i? Lastly, I think it would be a good start to implement Argon2 in ext-hash. Best regards Rouven

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