Re: Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"?
| From: | Joe Constant | Date: | Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:37:41 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Should we rethink the 50%+1 requirement for non-"language changes"? | ||
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>>P.S. Please don't top post... ;)
I'm not trying to thread hijack. Just trying to add to the discussion. The ops post was in
regards to RFCs passing to easily. My contention with the low voter turnout is in line (or at least
intended to be in line) with that.
>> It's often a specific feature for extension so moving everything to PECL is not really
>> an option.
My argument is that if it affects core, a certain percentage of voting members (people that have
taken on the responsibility of directing the future of core) should be required to vote. I
understand that they may not be interested, but if the voter turnout is really that low, the
proponents should be doing more to drum up interest rather than simply allowing an RFC to pass.
Joe Constant
On Jan 30, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Jakub Zelenka <bukka@php.net> wrote:
On 30 Jan 2016 18:07, "Joe Constant" <joe@joeconstant.com> wrote:
>
> As someone who has never participated with intervals before and only just recently subscribed
> to the list, I would like to see a minimum percentage of voting members participating in a vote for
> something to pass. In my interpretation of the current rules, a measure could pass with only 3 votes
> cast (2 for / 1 against). In fact, there was a recent proposal that passed with only 11 votes cast.
> If that few of voting members are participating, maybe the proposal wasn't clear enough (or
> maybe it's just not needed at all)? Sure you can argue that they had ample time to discuss,
> but I would say perhaps they just saw no value in it. If a proposal isn't offering enough value
> for the greater community, maybe it doesn't belong in core and should be either a pecl
> extension or userland code?
>
I disagree with this. The fact that not many people voted doesn't mean that the feature is not
important. Some RFC are very technical and about specific topics that not many voters is interested
in. However it can be important for some users and shouldn't be rejected just because there are
not enough votes even if the majority is in favour. It's often a specific feature for extension
so moving everything to PECL is not really an option.
P.S. Please don't top post... ;)
Cheers
Jakub