Re: Re: [RFC][VOTE] Allow specifying keys in list()

Morning, 1 - I'm not completely certain what you are referring too ... list() has always felt a bit strange to me and this doesn't feel any stranger imo. 2 - Perhaps I agree, but perhaps I tend to think that it's because I'm not used to looking at it yet. 3 - This isn't relevant at the moment. 4 - This is only example illustrative code. It isn't always about how many characters you have to type ... public function __construct(array $things) { $options = $things + $this->defaults; $this->apples = $options["apples"]; $this->oranges = $options["oranges"]; } This is a pretty common pattern ... I much prefer this: public function __construct(array $things) { list ( "apples" => $this->apples, "oranges" => $this->oranges ) = ($things + $this->defaults); } Not because it's less characters (although it is, by one), but because it's more expressive. Anyway +1 from me ... even if it's a bit late ... Cheers Joe On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 3:36 PM, guilhermeblanco@gmail.com < guilhermeblanco@gmail.com> wrote: > Here is my reasons for no: > > 1- Non-intuitive behavior > 2- Hard to read code, takes more time to understand underlying logic/flow > 3- YAANPI => Yet Another Alternate Named Parameters Implementation (when I > look at future scope) > 4- Most common usage form (first example) still forces you to type almost > same amount of logic with less readability and little value > > Regards, > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:50 AM, Joe Watkins <pthreads@pthreads.org> wrote: > >> Morning internalz, >> >> As mentioned the future scope stuff is scary, but not enough on it's >> own to vote no. >> >> So I want to vote yes, but I'm just waiting to hear objections from no >> voters, in case they thought of something I didn't ... >> >> Cheers >> Joe >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Andrea Faulds <ajf@ajf.me> wrote: >> >> > Hi again, >> > >> > There's been a lot of No votes on this RFC, but I haven't received much >> > feedback as to why. Would any of you mind sharing your reasons, if >> > possible? It would be helpful if I knew why people have voted against >> it, >> > as then I might be able to modify the RFC to be more palatable, or >> > understand where I went wrong. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > >> > Andrea Faulds wrote: >> > >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> It's been more than two weeks since I first proposed this RFC, and >> >> there's no outstanding issues preventing moving towards a vote. There's >> >> not yet a language specification patch, but that can be done later. >> >> >> >> So, I'm opening the vote on this RFC today, 2016-02-05, and it'll close >> >> the Sunday after next, 2016-02-14. The vote requires a 2/3 majority as >> >> it's a language change. >> >> >> >> The RFC page is here: >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/list_keys >> >> >> >> Happy voting! >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Andrea Faulds >> > https://ajf.me/ >> > >> > -- >> > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Guilherme Blanco > MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com > GTalk: guilhermeblanco > Toronto - ON/Canada >