Re: Re: [RFC] [PRE-VOTE] Union types
| From: | Bob Weinand | Date: | Thu, 02 Jun 2016 20:56:28 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Re: [RFC] [PRE-VOTE] Union types | ||
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> Am 02.06.2016 um 22:25 schrieb Rowan Collins <rowan.collins@gmail.com>:
>
> On 02/06/2016 18:43, Bob Weinand wrote:
>> We had that exact idea relatively early, but it exposes other problems… order suddenly
>> matters. You cannot just add "a" type and get the expected results.
>>
>> E.g.
>> function f(true | string $foo) { ... }
>>
>> everything except 0, ±0, "0" and "" would now return true. That's
>> totally WTF. Sure, it's more friendly for people who want to read*rules*. But it is very bad
>> for intuitivity.
>
> I'm not so sure about that - the RFC already mentions the mnemonic that "|"
> means "or", and anyone reading PHP code should be familiar with short-cutting boolean
> operators, so this feels kind of natural to me: "$foo must be true OR a string". Thus
> "I would prefer it to be true, but if not, will accept a string".
This is a bitwise or (as in constant flags), where all modes are allowed. It's not a boolean
or, whose mnemonic is "||" (not "|").
>> Also:
>>
>>> >function i(string | int) { echo gettype($number); }
>>> >i('10'); // string
>>> >i(10); // string
>> This. This is especially bad as it has different behaviors in strict and weak mode then.
>> That's a no-go.
>
> Again, the logic is "I would prefer a string if you can, but an int if not"; if weak
> mode tries its best to match that specification, it will always land on a string coercion.
And again, in strict mode, this would result in an integer - but not in weak mode. (because strict
types mandates no cast). This is a no-go, no matter what.
> It's more of a problem the other way around, though, because I'd forgotten that weak
> mode is allowed to perform lossy casts:
>
> function f ( int | string $number ) { echo $number; }
> f('1a');
>
> In weak mode, this would echo "1", because the int cast succeeds, lossily.
> That's a little odd, I admit.
>
>
> The rules are much clearer in table form, by the way, thumbs up for that. :) Although it would
> be nice to point to some documentation of where these rules were lifted from, given the claim that
> "they are not the invention of this proposal".
E.g. object->string is possible right now and is preserved (but object->int etc. aren't).
Or a non-numeric string cannot be passed to neither int nor float; thus not possible to pass them to
int|float.
> Looking at them, I see there is one extra rule which doesn't seem to be consistent with
> normal weak typing, but is trying very hard to be lossless, and that's "float -> int
> (if lossless)" as a separate priority from "float -> int".
I'm not strictly opposed here. If more people agree here I may change that.
> Current loose typing performs no such check:
>
> function f(int $x) { echo gettype($x), ':', $x; }
> f(4.5); // integer:4
>
> But the proposal is that this will prefer a string a cast:
>
> function f(int | string $x) { echo gettype($x), ':', $x; }
> f(4.5); // string:4.5
>
> If you get rid of this extra rule, the order of checks actually becomes a simple priority
> order, regardless of source type: [exact match], int, float, string, boolean.
>
>
> If the aim is to be lossless, then perhaps the order could be tweaked to make lossy casts
> always lower priority: string, float, int, boolean? That's technically lossy when passing
> int(9007199254740993) to "float | int" because it's above the safe threshold of 2^53,
> but the current implementation is already lossy when passing it to "float | string":
>
> function f(float | string $x) { var_export($x); }
> f(9007199254740993); // 9007199254740992.0
Yes, but this same behavior we have with strict types and we shall adhere to that.
Bob
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Rowan Collins
> [IMSoP]