Re: [RFC DISCUSSION] typeof

On 6/5/2016 12:36 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Why it should match scalar types? You can't use output of this function > in a scalar type in any way. > To avoid those WTF moments and make it easier for newcomers. On 6/5/2016 12:36 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > So let's add more of it by having multiple functions that do exactly the > same thing but name null and float differently. > The RFC contains the deprecation and removal of gettype as a non optional vote. You are completely right that introducing new stuff and more new stuff is the wrong way to go. We need to clean up too. On 6/5/2016 12:36 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > If you think people would want to edit gigabytes of existing code > because you want NULL to be lowercase, you are very seriously mistaken > about the order of priority of an average PHP developer. I am sure > 99.9999% of people care about all this pedantry infinitely less than > they care about their code keeping working and their development not be > impeded by things like having to read the manual each time to choose > which two of almost identical functions they need now and which of them > has null in which case. > I doubt that anybody relies on gettype to determine such things. They use is_null($x) and $x == null or $x === null. Anyone who relies on a function that had for years a warning in the manual that one should not rely on the returned string value or debugging/error output to stay consistent is doing something EXTREMELY wrong. On 6/5/2016 12:36 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > I think constantly disrupting the language environment by pedantic > tweaks that add BC and cognitive load but do not actually enable > anything new, just move things around - is not only confusing, but > harmful for the whole ecosystem. > This is the very nature of refactoring. Make things better without changing its functionality. However, in this case we even have a change of functionality. On 6/5/2016 12:36 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > And if "NULL" really confuses you to the point you have no idea what it > means - well, really, I don't know what to say. > Thanks for reducing my first contribution to this single tiny change that is part of it. I am sure it will attract more people to contribute to php-internals. :P (No worries, you don't scare me away, harharhar.) -- Richard "Fleshgrinder" Fussenegger

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