Fw: Remove me from your SPAM lists - jwkm@worldnet.att.net&jwkm@att.net

----- Original Message ----- From: J William Morneault <jwkm@worldnet.att.net> To: Gabor Hojtsy <gabor@hojtsy.hu> Cc: <webmaster@php.ne>; <ginombtra@erols.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Remove me from your SPAM lists - jwkm@worldnet.att.net&jwkm@att.net > To be candid, someone needs to take responsibility somewhere. > > To expand on your analogy that would mean a Bar Keep is not responsible for > serving someone too much alcohol. Frankly, the Bar Keep is in part > responsible as I believe you are. If you provide a product that is being > misused by someone and you are aware of it you really should take some > ownership in dealing with that customer. The miss-users of your product are > like alcoholics at a bar who can't stop themselves. > > You should read Cats Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gabor Hojtsy <gabor@hojtsy.hu> > To: J William Morneault <jwkm@worldnet.att.net> > Cc: <webmaster@php.net>; <ginombtra@erols.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:48 AM > Subject: Re: Remove me from your SPAM lists - > jwkm@worldnet.att.net&jwkm@att.net > > > > > http://www.quicklink.bz/mort/rem/ > > > > > > When I hit the above hyper link and try to remove my e-mail address this > > > messages appears: > > > > > > Warning: fopen(removes.txt) [function.fopen]: failed to create stream: > > > Permission denied in /home/www/mainsite/mort/rem/index.php on line 12 > > > > > > Your remove link obviously was not working. > > > > > > When I hit function.fopen I get this site > > > http://www.quicklink.bz/mort/rem/ > > > > > > In the tab Getting Help webmaster@php.net is a contact. > > > > > > Based on what I noted on your website, PHP is a supplier of Mailing > Lists > > > and I want off of your lists. It really is that simple. I don't > > understand > > > why I even have to explain how I got to you. It almost seems like you > are > > > covering yourself so you don't have to remove anyone from your list; if > I > > do > > > not responded you can say to whomever, "Well I tried to make contact but > > did > > > not get a response." > > > > > > Please respect my request and remove me from your lists....... > > > > > > I also might suggest that you respect any request similar to my > original. > > > > Well, we absolutely honor your request. But now it is clear for > > us, what drived you to think that we are the spammers. The string > > you quoted above starting with Warning is a PHP error message. PHP > > is actually the programming language (the techology the spammers use) > > to send their stuff out. Something is not working on their site, so > > an error message is printed, which links to our site to help developers > > find the solution for the problem. It is not intended to be seen by > > innocent users such as you. > > > > PHP is actually a tool to write programs, and it cannot be blamed for > > such spams, as if the spammer uses our product, it is very much like > > the fact that he is using a computer from some manufacturer. Would you > > sue the manufacturer for providing the spammer with the product? No. > > PHP is the same case. > > > > If someone uses a hammer to kill a man, then the creators of the > > hammer are not reponsible for it. We provide a tool, and for what > > it is used, is out of our control. > > > > I can assure you that we are not sending any spam, so we cannot remove > > off of any list, sorry. > > > > Goba > > >