mailing list suggestion

I hope this is an appropriate destination; if not, I'd appreciate any pointers elsewhere. We really need either a new mailing list, or some clarification on the use of an existing one that would fit, for people who are working with the current CVS builds, but who *use* PHP and are not (generally) developers *of* it. php-general is too swamped with noise and beginner-level questions. but the internals list is not really an appropriate place, mostly, for questions like "is this *supposed* to be like this? or is it a bug?" i thought that php-beta would be the best bet, but the last message there says that php-qa has replaced it. yet php-qa seems to be mostly just postings of test results, and really more for the internal needs of the QA group. maybe just revive php-beta? but of course, it only works if the right people are reading it who can answer the questions. and i know they are just a little busy right now... :) i think we do help dig out bugs and find problem areas. it might especially be useful for people like the PEAR developers as they start trying to move their packages to PHP 5. (presuming they intend to, of course.) anyways. something to think about, at least. thanks for your time.