Re: sdphp.net -> sdphp.com

Dear Kawika Ohumukini, Since I live in Hungary, I am not well informed on the situation in San Diego. If this is surprising, so excuse me. Since both the content on sdphp.com and the (seemingly reform oriented) poll on sdphp.net is recent, it is not easy without further investigation to decide what is happening. I am as always trying to protect the existance of already established entities. Do you think that if someone comes around with a newly registered name (let's say sdphp.org) next time, from an email address similar to "Post Admin <post01@rgrwilco.com>", then it is obvious that the request is good intentioned? Being the new leader of the group, would you like to get in contact with someone, who blindly does what he is asked for, or with someone who tries to find the logic and the reasons? Since our event system needs a contact email address and a date for events, and your site shows that the date is not yet found, plus that you have not provided a contact email address, I cannot modify the event without leaving it in an incosistent state. Please either specify a contact email address, so I can modify the event, and leave the date temporarly, until you find out something about it. Or you can submit a new event with a date specified, and then I can approve it, and remove the existing one. Regards, Gabor Hojtsy Post Admin wrote: > Since logic seems in short supply here I guess I'll have to spell it out for > you. > > Reality #1: > You should notice that the poll was done within the last 2 days and nothing > has happened before that all the way back to September 2004. Someone who > thinks one member, not an admin, poll with no meetings, posts, or meaningful > mailgroup exchange in 12 months is a functioning group then they might want > to reconsider their standards, they're way too low. You can check out the > new polls at the www.sdphp.com, register, go to member polls. > > Reality #2: > 21 members, the most active members included, have moved to the new web site > (www.sdphp.com) and maillist (ask for yourself at group-subscribe@sdphp.com > and enter the SDPHPUG reality). When a group can't get 3 people to show up > to a meeting in 1 year and 21 of the prospective attendees jump ship to a > new organization then that pretty much buries the old carcass. > > Reality #3: > You could use your powers of investigation to contact the old list admin > (good luck he's gone) or the domain admin (again good luck he's gone to) or > ask on the old maillist (as long as you don't mind getting the occasional > phishing message and persistent bounced messages everytime you post). > > When Logic Is Gone > If you still want to keep a dead group listed that's your business. If > that's the case then please forward instructions to getting listed on your > calendar page as the new and much improved only active san diego PHP user > group and we can all get back to work. > > Is that real enough for you? > > Cheers, > Kawika Ohumukini > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Gabor Hojtsy [mailto:gabor@hojtsy.hu] >>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:36 AM >>To: Post Admin >>Cc: webmaster@php.net >>Subject: Re: sdphp.net -> sdphp.com >> >>Hi, >> >>Since sdphp.net hosts a poll dated very recently, I doubt >>there is no activity there: >> >>| Where do you live (for purposes of group meetings)? >>| Submitted by BruceT on 2005/08/26 - 13:29 >> >>Now what is the real situation? >> >>[Please use reply all when replying.] >> >>Regards, >>Gabor Hojtsy >> >>Post Admin wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>The SDPHPUG has reformed but the www.sdphp.net site is not being >>>administered (evidenced by the last post was 9/2004) so us members >>>have moved over to www.sdphp.com. Can you please update the link on >>>the events pages? >>> >>>Thank you, >>>Kawika Ohumukini >>>SDPHPUG Organizer >>> >> >