Re: Argentina Mirror
| From: | Gabor Hojtsy | Date: | Mon, 02 Jan 2006 15:22:51 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: Argentina Mirror | ||
| References: | 1 2 3 | Groups: | php.mirrors |
| Request: | Send a blank email to php-mirrors+get-30234@lists.php.net to get a copy of this message | ||
Hi Mauro,
I have replied previously in reference to these mails. Please reread my
reply with this in mind. And please also continue to be in
correspondence with mirrors@php.net, since it is a group of people, and
not my personal email address.
Regards,
Gabor Hojtsy
Mauro@server.barthazi.hu wrote:
> Hello Gabor, Pablo answer this email with the reasons which can't allow
> us to be mirrors, so we answer his email with the reasons that show you
> that we are good candidates, so i paste the email with the reasons and
> the Pablo's email.
>
>
>
>
> Mauro Ferraro :: G2K Hosting :: escribió: Hello People,
>
> I can't believe the Pablo Arturi's Answer, to the request that we made.
> Sincerely i think that is a joke of Innocent's day.
>
> In first, your Internet Provider (IPLAN) rent de internet access to
> CABASE and G4(PRIMA, TELECOM, IMPSAT, TELEFONICA) . CABASE rents de
> internet access to G4. G4 is the only group of ISPs in Argentina that
> have enough traffic power to provide Internet Access to other companies
> and not other companies to G4, so others ISPs, like IPLAN pay for the
> bandwidth. I think that you must consider other Internet Provider for
> the servers and not us. It is pain to know that you aren't welcome in
> datamarkets nowadays so we can understand your answer.
>
> The G4 have the most amount of traffic in the country. Also, the actual
> PHP Mirrors (Argentina Mirrors) are out of G4 and into IPLAN, so, if
> IPLAN fall off, the mirrors FALL OFF (no redundancy). In Datamarkets we
> don't have problem with bandwidth because the National traffic it
> doesn't matter, and each company decide if shape or not the bandwidth.
> However IPLAN must shape the bandwidth because they only rent the
> Internet Access with "X" amount of bandwidth.
>
> IPLAN have 2 connections in 2 ISPs, G4(Only Telefonica) and CABASE,
> however Datamarkets(PRIMA) is in the G4. I think that is very funny to
> talk of redundancy in this case, so, is obvious that our Network is
> redundant, because is the major and more important of the country, and
> is linked to the other partner's companies that conform the G4 (Telecom,
> ImpSat, Telefonica).
>
> With respect to the load balancing tecnologies, we don't have problems
> to implement a Round Robin with several servers (could be 4 to begin).
> It is a pleasure for us to contribute to the PHP community.
>
> Also, is interesting to mention that in Argentina we have only 2
> companies that provide telephone lines, and that companies are in G4
> (Telecom and Telefonica). Therefore, all ADSL and most broadbands
> connections in the country are in G4. That, talk about magnitude of
> users that receive a best performance of Download from servers in G4
> than servers in CABASE.
>
> And last, we have an IP Pool (Class C) granted for LACNIC and we have an
> agreement with DataMarkets(PRIMA) too, that allow us to be connected
> directly to the CORE of Backbone in Argentina.
>
> Well we hope that you can consider our detailed explanation and thank
> you very much for the attention.
>
> Ps: we hope an evaluation of PHP representative with an objective answer
> please.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Mauro Ferraro
> Departamento Ventas
> Grupo 2K Networks
> Grupo 2K / G2KHosting
> De La Nación 326 L8 , San Nicolás (2900) Buenos Aires, Argentina
> Tel: +54-11-4032-1245
> Fax: +54-11-4032-1245
> MSN: mauro@grupo2k.com.ar
> E-Mail: mferraro@g2khosting.com
>
>
>
> Pablo L. Arturi escribió:
>
> Well, I felt like I needed to write
>
> First of all, you have colocation services in datamarkets. This ISP has no
> connection to the NAP (Argentinian National Access Point), so you better
> consider another ISP which could give you more conectivity. To who may be
> interested, today's argentinian internet has divided its connectivity in 2
> main networks, G4 and CABASE (nap). We have a bandwith shaper which allows
> users to only download at 512 kbps from the same source, so you won't be
> able to do a test in any way about our bandwidth available, never. And in
> the other hand, since we have this kinf of control, we can make sure php
> mirror availability for most users. Better yet, every ISP should do this
> limitations/controls, otherwise while you were testing xmundo you did make
> their php mirror downloads unavailable for other users. That's if you really
> were able to download at 2 Mbps and if XMundo has only 2 Mbps of available
> bandwidth.
>
> Apart from that, we do have 3 physical connections from 3 different
> providers, and 2 physical connections assigned to the php mirror, and both
> directions routing (g4 and cabase), you only have one. You can test this at:
> http://cabase.comsat.net.ar/ and in case you didn't know
> that, try a better
> serious ISP.
>
> test your IP: g2khosting.com [200.32.8.14]
>
> test our IP: php.bairesweb.com [201.216.206.217] (1)
> test our IP: php.bairesweb.com [200.59.45.3] (2)
> (round robin dns)
>
> http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=ar.php.net&type=A
>
> So now, if you can bit our network infrastructure (which could be difficult
> with a datamarkets/prima colocated service), and since we do this mirror
> only to help argentinian mirrors get the most fast access to php data (which
> I think is the idea), I will be yielding our position in the mirrors php
> site.
>
> And to take advantage of this opportunity, I would like to thanks to the php
> comunity for this *big thing* made (php) which let us improve our services
> and expand them.
>
> Apologizes for my poor english and a happy new year for all of you!
>
> Pablo L. Arturi
> parturi@bairesweb.com
> gerente de tecnología
>
> Soporte BairesWeb
> soporte@bairesweb.com
>
> Maipú 464 1º B
> 1006 Capital Federal
> Buenos Aires, Argentina
>
>
>
>
>
> Please, I Hope that you can read this and reconsider our request.
>
> Thank you very much for all and happy new year!.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> Mauro Ferraro
> Departamento Ventas
> Grupo 2K Networks
> Grupo 2K / G2KHosting
> De La Nación 326 L8 , San Nicolás (2900) Buenos Aires, Argentina
> Tel: +54-11-4032-1245
> Fax: +54-11-4032-1245
> MSN: mauro@grupo2k.com.ar
> E-Mail: mferraro@g2khosting.com
>
>
>
> Gabor Hojtsy escribió:
>
>>Hi Mauro,
>>
>>Up to this point we have only seen you and Pablo (the current
>>ar.php.net) maintainer arguing on who is the best provider. We have not
>>seen independent complaints on the service of the existing mirrors, so
>>it does not seem to be justified that a change in mirrors is needed.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Gabor Hojtsy
>>
>>Mauro@server.barthazi.hu wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello People, well, we are sending this email because we are very
>>>interesting to be a PHP mirror, i was seeing actually Argentina Mirrors
>>>and they very poor in bandwidth, in fact when we test the mirrors the
>>>best of them download to 2 Mbps (Xmundo) and the worst download to 512
>>>Kbps (BairesWeb). Actually we have a very well infrastructure of
>>>BandWidth of 10 Mbps and we want to be mirror of PHP.net for provide
>>>better stuff to Argentina people.
>>>
>>>I hope you can read and evaluate this message and we wait your answer.
>>>Thanks for your atention.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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