note 95556 added to language.operators.increment

daevid: You need to think of the ++ as an assignment operator. All of your examples are working exactly as they should, which is the same way this operator has worked in every programming language for decades. <?php $num = $num++; //This returns $num then increments $num (Post-increment). $num = ++$num; //This increments $num then returns the new $num (Pre-increment). ?> $num++ does not mean "One more than the value of $num". If that's what you need, you want $num+1. $num++ means "Give me $num, then add one to its value". ++$num means "Add one to $num, then give me the new value". If you simply want to increase $num by 1, you have many choices: <?php //All of these are equivalent $num++; ++$num; $num += 1; $num = $num + 1; ?> ---- Server IP: 64.71.164.2 Probable Submitter: 70.88.157.187 ---- Manual Page -- http://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.increment.php Edit -- https://master.php.net/note/edit/95556 Del: integrated -- https://master.php.net/note/delete/95556/integrated Del: useless -- https://master.php.net/note/delete/95556/useless Del: bad code -- https://master.php.net/note/delete/95556/bad+code Del: spam -- https://master.php.net/note/delete/95556/spam Del: non-english -- https://master.php.net/note/delete/95556/non-english Del: in docs -- https://master.php.net/note/delete/95556/in+docs Del: other reasons-- https://master.php.net/note/delete/95556 Reject -- https://master.php.net/note/reject/95556 Search -- https://master.php.net/manage/user-notes.php