Re: Re: HTTP::Cache vs HTTP::Download and HTTP::Header

From: Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:44:31 +0000
Subject: Re: Re: HTTP::Cache vs HTTP::Download and HTTP::Header
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Hi Anatoly Techtonik, you wrote: > Hello Michael, > MW> If one's not able to find and use information and transform > MW> it into knowlegde, well, one can be called quite lost nowadays... > MW> If you've got any suggestions to improve the situation, provide > MW> them in a sensible way, we'll very much appreciate them. > > Well, I suggest to merge the functionality of them into one package, > which could be called HTTP::Cache_Control. HTTP_Download supports much more than caching. >>>I can only presume, >>>that HTTP::Download implements something like PEAR wget > > MW> HTTP_Download is no downloader. The name might *now* be confusing, > MW> but when the project started it was a real tiny "send some data" class. > MW> See the package description, cvs and the docs for more information. > > The name *is* confusing and I'm not interested in some package history > as long as I can't do that I need. Pardon? > HTTP::Download - Quote from manual: [...] > > Where is something about Cache-Control here? http://pear.php.net/manual/en/package.http.http-download.setcache.php > What is "hidden downloads" BTW? See example 33-2. > I think it is downloader and descriptions confirm my thoughts. http://pear.php.net/package/HTTP_Download > I can't imagine how can I use downloader to control cache on the users > side? > If Downloader has such Cache functionality I propose to detach this > functionality into separate logical concept and establish a > dependancy. That will be logicaly correct. If you want an argue - > place a voting: > > "How should be called package implementing HTTP cache control > mechanisms described in chapter > 13.1.3 of HTTP RFC > http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2616.html ?" I won't repeat - I already said why its name is HTTP_Download, please read the archives for more information. A naming debate is for me as well out of place as detaching this functionality. > MW> Well, then have another look. Many people are already using these > MW> classes successfully. If you foind a bug while using them, please > MW> report (if not needless to say). > > Many? Let's assume there is package download statistics and most of > them using these packages to "handle (hidden) downloads. It supports > partial downloads, resuming and sending raw data ie. from database BLOBs." > How many of them use Cache-Control techniques from these packages? > How many use different Cache-Control packages and why don't they use > HTTP::Download and HTTP::Header for that purpose? Don't ask me - make a survey. > What is Ueber, BTW? =) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ueber Regards, -- Michael - < mike(@)php.net >

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