Re: TestFest 2010
| From: | Eric Stewart | Date: | Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:32:11 +0000 |
| Subject: | Re: TestFest 2010 | ||
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2010/3/2 Johannes Schlüter <johannes@php.net>
> On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 02:14 -0500, Eric Stewart wrote:
> > TestFest 2010
> >
> > ##### New Wiki Page #####
> > I'd like to create a new wiki page for this year's TestFest (
> > http://wiki.php.net/qa/testfest-2010). I'd like to
> > keep the old one up
> for
> > reference, and maybe posterity. Any objections?
>
> thanks for driving this topic!
>
> > ##### When #####
> > I got quite a fair amount of feedback from people last year wishing the
> > event ran longer. So I propose we run it from April to July 2010 (4
> Months)
> > this year.
>
> People are welcome to submit tests even outside the testfest, and I'd
> like to see testfest as an initial motivation to get started.
>
Excellent point. In fact a lot of what I'm planning this year I hope to keep
available all year round. TestFest will in a sense be a test bed for
developing and deploying better tools for QA as a whole.
> > ##### Prizing #####
>
> > 1. PHP ElePHPants. These are very popular and sought after. If we don't
> > currently have any to give away, can we get a corporation to sponsor a
> run
> > of say 50 little ones for random test writers and 1 BIG ElePHPant to go
> to a
> > lucky User Group.
>
> I'll talk to Damian about this. They make great prizes, encouraging PHP
> fans.
>
I appreciate your help. Anything you can do will be well received.
> > 2. PHP email addresses. Also very popular and pretty inexpensive. Give
> maybe
> > 5.
>
> These are no prizes. This is a tool for PHP contributors to talk toeach
> other (as in finding the correct current mail address of somebody whodid
> a commit) As such they shouldn't be given to people by chance but as
> part of the account for their work.
>
> > 3. 5-10 Zend Studio Licenses might make a popular prize.
>
> There are many good PHP IDEs out there, don't know why we should feature
> one specific. If Zend sponsors them I won't oppose but well ...
>
> (Disclaimer: I work for a vendor of a very good free OpenSource PHP IDE)
>
Sorry for any offense. I certainly didn't mean to imply that Zend Studio was
the best PHP development tool out there or push any particular agenda on the
event. It's just a commonly used tool that is not free and might be
interesting to some of the contributors. (Disclaimer: I do not work for any
PHP IDE company ... hehe).
> > 4. 5 Laptops. Anybody know somebody? I know, maybe a bit much, but if you
> > don't ask, you won't get!
>
> I prefer quality over quantity submissions,such a price might give us
> many contributions but many of very small quality which makes it harder
> for us - given the limited review capacity.
Good point. Probably not the best idea so far. I was just trying to think
big and maybe find some bigger incentives than we've looked into in the
past. I'm not married to the idea though.
> > 5. 5 Licenses of Windows 7 Ultimate to random contributors of Windows
> > specific test writers?
> > 5. 5 Licenses of Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server?
>
> Same as with the above prizes. RHEL is even more questionable if we want
> to promote a distribution offering way outdated PHP (5.1), especially as
> the only worth of such a distribution is the support which is mostly
> relevant for production use, where one system isn't much. Being an open
> source project I'd prefer promoting OpenSource Operating Systems over
> closed source operating systems - if at all. But again: If they come to
> us I won't object but I'd not actively search there.
>
Again, I'm just spit balling here. I'm also not a fan of the PHP version lag
in RHEL. But the RPMs aren't the only way to get PHP on a RHEL box. And many
people don't have the luxury of choosing the environment they're employers
run in production. I digress, bottom line I'm not particularly for or
against it. It's just something I came up with.
> (Disclaimer: I work for a company having its own Linux distribution and
> a true Unix system)
>
> I'd rather give out books or conference passes or such kind of stuff
> (conference passes are complicated due to the global nature though ...)
>
> > Any corporation who sponsors prizes will be highlighted in a sponsor
> section
> > of the Wiki as well as in the news announcements on PHP.net.
>
> In general php.net doesn't promote companies too much, mirror sponsors
> get their logo, some hardware/bandwidth sponsors get a text link other
> than that php.net is rather neutral. Thanking companies is fine but I
> don't favor selling ads.
>
> johannes
>
>
Eric Lee Stewart