Re: [SMARTY-DEV] problems with PHP5

On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 1:12:18 +0200, Messju Mohr wrote (in message <20030624231218.GI3767@pharao.lammfellpuschen.de>): > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:10:04PM +0200, Tom Sommer wrote: >> Terje Torkelsen wrote: >> >>> PHP5-cvs results in a fatal error when $this is used as a variable >>> outside >>> any class, even if the file is going to be included inside a class... >>> otherwise php5-cvs is backward compatible, the rules are just more strict. >> >> WHAT?! That's... WHAT! >> >> Hope they change that > > what's your problem, tom? you just shouldn't call your variables > $this. > > "$this" *may* become reserved to be only allowed inside an object's > contexts (which does *not* mean you cannot use "$this" inside a file > that is included by an object's method). > > php5 is in such an early stage and the php-team has shown in history > that it has no problem to change internals/bc/side-effect-behavior if > it regards it as "good" in the long run (with "good" not necessarily > reading as "good, for you", of course ;) . > > maybe the restrictions on $this get less (unlikely), maybe the > restrictions on $this even get tightened (if it goes bad for us, maybe > so that no include may use $this. (hopefully this is also to be > considered "unlikely" due to php being a template-system, as we all > know and appreciate :)) > > anyway, IMHO it's stupid to want to do php5 a favour and put any (even > the slightest) restriction on our current design and/or optimizations > regarding php5. our target-environment (=php5 in this case) is likely > to change a lot, still, so why try to optimize for it? > > i am hubristic that we will be able to make smarty run under php5 when > it's done. i'm willing to try when php5 is alpha. i'm willing to test > when php5 is beta. but i don't see a point in worrying about it now. > for me it's like trying to make smarty suitable for macos-11/pussy-cat > or for l0ng-h0rn/200x and for an hyperthreaded apache3. > > or did i miss some concessions regarding php5 (sth. i could rely on), > recently? > > greetings > messju dont know if you follow the development on php5, i do as im _very_ intrested in the new features. it might be a while till the final release, but the developers are wrapping up the beta and aiming for 30th of june, so it not far from a beta..