Why is response type empty?

Hello all, Richard and Justin having been so helpful with my previous query, I'm stuck on the complementary operation. Before the client sent a complex Person object and received an int in reply. Now I need to send that int and receive a Person object in return. I have a question and a problem: 1) Likely sounds silly: In defining the WSDL (I use The Eclipse WebTools GUI), I have the two operations, InsertID and GetUser. Why must I define two new wsdl:message types, instead of using the two defined for the first operation in the reverse order?? 2) No matter how I wrap it or whatever, the GetUserResponse type comes back completely empty. Is this the infamous "can't return complex objects issue"?? I tried the work-around suggested by nodkz in the PHP manual ( http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.soap.php#83409 ), but that didn't work either. :-( here's the XML received by the client. It's even missing a matching <out/> tag. Is that even valid?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <SOAP-ENV:Envelope xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:ns1="http://localhost/TestSOAP/"> <SOAP-ENV:Body> <ns1:GetUserResponse><out/> </ns1:GetUserResponse> </SOAP-ENV:Body></SOAP-ENV:Envelope> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On the Server side, the objects, before serialization look fine: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Person Object ( [ID] => 342 [Name] => Cohen ) GetUserResponse Object ( [out] => [Person] => Person Object ( [ID] => 342 [Name] => Cohen ) ) SoapVar Object ( [enc_type] => 301 [enc_value] => GetUserResponse Object ( [out] => [Person] => Person Object ( [ID] => 342 [Name] => Cohen ) ) [enc_stype] => GetUserResponse ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ thank you once again, Shmuel-Aharon Kam -- You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me. Shmuel A. Kam Shmuel@Kam-motion.com